My Question

[bill m]

I have an unusual Weimar Luger with some markings on it that I have no idea what they could be. The Luger is a police gun with a sear safety and the mag safety clipped. The serial number of the gun is 8662 R, and has a property number on the front grip strap of S.M. 740. It has a 1935 dated police holster matched to the gun with S.M. 740 on it as well as the tool, S.M. 740, and the two wood magazines are numbered 740, but without a 1 or 2. Kind of unusual to use the property number on everything rather than the serial number of the gun.


My question is the proofs. It has what looks like a Prussian Eagle on the barrel, receiver, and breech -- this looks kinda like a Simson eagle. The odd marks are on the right receiver where there is a GL and a 6 underneath the GL. The gun and rig is all original and shows use, being in about 90% original condition. Does anyone have any idea what this GL -6 could be? Is it some sort of Simson proofs? Thanks --

Are there any crowns over the G & L? Sounds like another of General Luger's reworks.

[bill m]

Hi Tom,

There are no crowns over the GL -- This is not a "Generals Rework", or a fake or a counterfiet, but a real Weimar vintage gun with odd marking on it. I know you know Scott Castle, and he looked at it and concurs that it is not a messed with gun or outfit, but just doesn't have a clue what it is. I have seen police guns with just one large Eagle and a 6 on the right side, but this has no eagles or crowns. Scott wants me to bring it to Kansas City to the summer show to show Charlie and all you guys, and see if they have any idea what it is. It is a real Weimar Police gun that hasn't been screwed with, but is different that anything I have seen before.

I'll look forward to seeing it in KC in July.

[jerry peters]

The question is: On a 1908 Navy Commercial, which is correct.... the long or the short frame?

[Kyrie]

Hi Jerry,


I'd expect a short frame. OTOH I'd not turn my nose up at a long frame 1908 Navy Commercial, if it had provenance. Military contracts were where DWM made their money, and commercial pistols were something of a sideline. It's not unusual to find parts left over from older military runs used in commercial pistols built after the military contract was concluded. The folks at DWN were a frugal lot, and saw no sense in discarding perfectly usable parts


Best regards,


Kyrie

[SteveM]

Could this mean Globau? Ref Walters book "Luger"


SteveM

[bill m]

Hi,

Could you please explain in greater detail? Thanks!

[SteveM]

This is offered entirely FWIW. All info is from Walters "Luger" encyclopedia.


"On P.08 and PT.08, under H.Dv.464:the Glogau garrison headquarters(Kommandantur)" (then it refers to another listing)

"On P.08 and PT.08, under H.Dv.464:Kommandantur(headquarters) used by each garrison headquarters in

Weimar Germany. The mark is always accompanied by the district code, such as "Kdtr.Mg.105"Kommandanturen were in Berlin(B),Breslau(Br),Custrin(C),Cuxhaven(Cu,naval),Dresden(D),Glatz(G), Glogau(Gl),Hanover(H),Ingolstadt(J) (and it goes on with more listings)


Hope this helps,

SteveM

[Patrick]

That�´s also what I would thing "Gl" stands for. Patrick

[bill m]