41 byf is here

Navystv · 03-06-2003, 08:15 PM

Hello to you all.
Finally my first Luger is arrived.
It's a 41 byf, s/n 1121 b all matching, black plastic grips (but I'm not sure about their originality), alu magazine (black painted bottom) marked L, +, and a SE.
Inspector marks are: double SE 135 on the right side and one small SE 135 on the barrel, left.
On the lower side of the barrel, more or less in the middle, there are an eagle over N, three crowns in a shield and "02". These marks are really clear, in white color, and the eagle has the wings closed. The same eagle appears down the "b" block suffix.
Is everything correct?
As soon as possible I'll post some pics.
Thanks,
Marzio

Lugerdoc · 03-07-2003, 09:25 AM

Marzio, The markings under your barrel don't sound original to a WW2 Mauser luger. A photo of these would definately be of interest. Is your barrel 9mmP and matching to the rest of the pistol? I know at one time, a private Italian citizen couldn't own a 9mmPara, so many dealers were rebarreling these to 7.65mm. Tom H.

Navystv · 03-07-2003, 10:53 AM

Hello Tom.
Yes, you're right: my pistol is rebarreled (better, rechambered) in 9X21 because here 9 para is illegal, but the barrel is matching and original (marked 8.82).
The markings should be germans, post-war period; the eagle seems to be Bunds Republik type, and the shield w 3 crowns the symbol of Koln test bench.
Here is an adress with a good database for european markings and codes; it's in italian, if you need I'll help you:
http://www.earmi.it/armi/database/codicige.htm
Marzio

03-06-2003, 08:15 PM	#1
Navystv User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Italy Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	41 byf is here Hello to you all. Finally my first Luger is arrived. It's a 41 byf, s/n 1121 b all matching, black plastic grips (but I'm not sure about their originality), alu magazine (black painted bottom) marked L, +, and a SE. Inspector marks are: double SE 135 on the right side and one small SE 135 on the barrel, left. On the lower side of the barrel, more or less in the middle, there are an eagle over N, three crowns in a shield and "02". These marks are really clear, in white color, and the eagle has the wings closed. The same eagle appears down the "b" block suffix. Is everything correct? As soon as possible I'll post some pics. Thanks, Marzio

03-07-2003, 09:25 AM	#2
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Marzio, The markings under your barrel don't sound original to a WW2 Mauser luger. A photo of these would definately be of interest. Is your barrel 9mmP and matching to the rest of the pistol? I know at one time, a private Italian citizen couldn't own a 9mmPara, so many dealers were rebarreling these to 7.65mm. Tom H. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

03-07-2003, 10:53 AM	#3
Navystv User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Italy Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello Tom. Yes, you're right: my pistol is rebarreled (better, rechambered) in 9X21 because here 9 para is illegal, but the barrel is matching and original (marked 8.82). The markings should be germans, post-war period; the eagle seems to be Bunds Republik type, and the shield w 3 crowns the symbol of Koln test bench. Here is an adress with a good database for european markings and codes; it's in italian, if you need I'll help you: http://www.earmi.it/armi/database/codicige.htm Marzio