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g'day ya'll, probably the newest member here, and with questions yet - don't have a Luger (do have many other, more modern handguns tho) - looking to buy my 1st Luger and have been doing "some" research my price range will (probably) be $4000 or less (less is good) and I've been looking on local Texas Luger sellers websites - have found a number that "look good" (to me) but am curious as to what others might have to say I want a gun that looks good and one that I could shoot, but just occasionally (very little) and I'm up in the air about 9mm or .30cal I do realize the matching numbers is best so I'd go that route (with or without matching magazine) here are a couple of samples of what I've found, somewhat locally (I live closest to Houston but Dallas also has a recommended seller : here's 1 example of which I'm interested : http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/ma...luger-pr32320/ http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/dw...luger-pr34798/ would appreciate any comments - thank you |
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I can tell you who, in Texas, to avoid. Send me an email at 7keoki@gmail.com.
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Hi William,
Welcome to the forum! I haven't heard anything one way or the other about Collector's Firearms, but $3,495.00 for a refinished G date with mis-matched magazine is shockingly expensive. I advise you to bide your time, something better (and less expensive) will turn up sooner or later. Regards, Norm |
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You should also download a copy of our FAQ document (just follow the FAQ link top of page) and the "New collectors FAQ". It has a great deal of reference information.
Your budget is enough for most collectible Lugers. The key is to find a trustworthy dealer, and do enough study to understand what you are buying. Reference material and study will save you from making errors and pay back much more than the cost. You should also consider getting Geoff Sturgess' book from SImpson LTD in Illinois.
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For $4k, you can get a very nice collectible luger AND a shooter! Which is what I would recommend. Buy the shooter first, while you decide what approx. $3k collectible you would like to have.
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My standard advice for newer collectors is to buy a "shooter", around $1,000 and a book like "Lugers at Random" which can be had used for $50 or so. This will introduce you to the pistol and provide useful learning. When a new collector insists on better, I then advise not spend more than $1,400 to minimize the chance of an expensive mistake.
I would pass on both your linked pistols and advise a book and patience in finding either a shooter or lower-end collectible. |
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As you stroll through the isles at Collectors you will see hundreds of guns. That is about
a third of what they have. They specialize in have one of everything, that a person wants right now, and doesn't particularly care about the cost. They are probably 25% higher than some of the other online sales places, and the only advantage is you can hold it in your hand. Try Legacy Collectables , Checkpoint Charlies and a few of them for a deal on a shooter ,before you buy an expensive collectable to shoot. 9MM are cheap to shoot, 30's are fun but the ammo is almost twice what a 9 will cost. I just found a Pawn shop close will do the FFL transfer for $21.65 instead of the $30 a gun range charges. Buy cheap at first and learn what you need to know. JMHO Paul |
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09-05-2017, 11:06 AM | #11 |
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thank you all for your replies - much appreciated.....Bill |
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Sitting on cash, study a domain a little bit before acquisition is a good advice. Many reasons behind that.. even in a perfect world, there are many variations to choose from, which one is more attractive to you, etc. This is true regardless of gun type and your budget.
And, generally speaking, collecting is an iteration process. You learn a little bit, get a sample, this sample helps you learn more,,, this takes time but that's good, because mean while you accumulate more cash for next acquisition... Of course, that's assume you will dive deep into a domain. If just need one valid great sample, you don't have to iterate. |
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thank you alvin.... here are 3 that, to me, look interesting - perhaps some of the Members here could comment : https://www.legacy-collectibles.com/...ner-luger.html https://www.legacy-collectibles.com/...gazine-67.html https://www.legacy-collectibles.com/...r-rig-717.html a couple of things about me - I really don't want to buy "a shooter" and then later buy "a collectable" - also the price difference between the 9mm and .30 luger isn't a concern as I won't be shooting whatever I decide to buy a lot (and .30 luger actually sounds "good" to me, as I've got an number of 9x19 & 9x18 pistols already) thanks fellows.....Bill |
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Agree with everyone. Buy a shooter luger first and enjoy it for awhile while you research. Paid 900 for my shooter luger and have been learning off here and various sources while i save and keep an eye out for collectibles. Checkpoint charlies is a great place to look not sure if your on armslist in your local area but you may see a couple shooter grades floating around
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Hmm.. three guns, three very different variations. Pistols like Swiss Luger 1906 is very specific sub-domain. Unless you're an early auto pistol collector, you probably want to go later guns. Police vs military, do you have a preference? WWII military 9mm Luger is more popular on the market... when we talk about "icon guns", Luger is one of those icon guns. WWII military 9mm will be a great representative, I would think that way.
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.30 cal. severely limits your choices.
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1920 commercials
Please keep in mind you can economically buy screamingly nice 1920 commercials in .30 cal and re-barrel them to nine? Or buy another top half and have both / all of the shooting and collectability that you desire... Jerry is correct, in that .30 is a bit limited in ammo offerings.. but since PPU has come on the scene, the future looks pretty bright for these older commercial units... Best to all, til...lat'r...GT.... till then, buy books, go and look! Pick up and examine as many as you can find, and they'll let you touch... Leave no stone unturned!!!
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I'm sure the advice of buying a "shooter" 1st is valid, just not for me I want the pistol that's in excellent condition that I can put only a few rounds thru, occasionally yes, I know there's more "out there" in 9mm (vs .30) but I'm not looking for "more", just 1 - and, again, I'm not tied to wanting a .30cal vs 9mm - nor am I tied to Military vs Police vs produced for Germany vs Switzerland (or any other Country) any of ya'll have comments about the 3 Legacy adverts that I posted above? |
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I like the Swiss...but being an early gun collector, naturally I would. Seriously, It looks like a good piece in nice condition and not exorbitantly priced. The finish looks original and it does not have a "P" privatization marking, which is not easy to find. Unless I am mistaken it looks pretty much like an un-messed with gun.
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Man i wish i had the cash for any of them.haha. all are quite nice but i would choose the 1939
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