Identify Wood ???

sheepherder · 01-31-2018, 06:29 PM

I'm getting ready to post a couple Buck knives with exotic [for Buck] alloy blades to eBay. One of them is the one in the bottom, but both have the same wood. I'd like to correctly identify it for the description.

Can anyone say what wood this is???

Thank You!

Karl · 01-31-2018, 06:50 PM

Looks like oak to me. Be creative. Call it whatever you wish. No one will ever be the wiser.

KFS

DonVoigt · 01-31-2018, 07:10 PM

Looks like oak to me too.

Eugen · 01-31-2018, 09:00 PM

I think we can all agree that the wood is oak...white oak.

sheepherder · 01-31-2018, 09:18 PM

Thank you all!!!

It actually does matter. The Buck Custom Shop offers many scale choices; Water Buffalo horn, Sambar Stag antler, at least a couple kinds of wood. The plain-Jane 110's/112's are Rosewood, of which I have several dozen, so I knew it wasn't Rosewood.

Some collectors specialize in the exotic alloys, like BG-42, CPM 154, S30V, etc. I have a half-dozen of those, and need to move them. I collected them back in the early 2000's. It was fun but it's a niche hobby. Not a lot of demand for any of the 'rarer' Bucks. Unfortunately, I have a couple dozen of them...

Norme · 01-31-2018, 09:25 PM

Hi Rich,
I know oak sounds un-exotic, but how about "Heart of Oak"? This was the wood used to build the British Navy during the Napoleonic Wars and if I'm not mistaken, was used for the keel of the U.S.S. Constitution as well.
Norm

sheepherder · 01-31-2018, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Norme

Hi Rich,
I know oak sounds un-exotic...

Norm - Buck must think it's 'exotic', as the Custom Shop offers it as an option. (Or they used to; some options have been discontinued).

I like it.

I'm wondering if a Luger would look good with Oak grips. It's pretty grainy; would it take checkering without looking all 'chippy'???

Neil Young · 01-31-2018, 10:45 PM

There are some pretty significant voids in the dark streaks in the grain. If you want to have a smooth finish on furniture for instance, you must use some type of filler before finishing. I don't think it would be satisfactory for checkering at all.

Ron Wood · 02-01-2018, 12:36 AM

Perhaps it is wood from the fabled "Charter Oak". From Wikipedia: "The Charter Oak was an unusually large white oak tree growing on Wyllys Hyll in Hartford, Connecticut in the United States, from around the 12th or 13th century until it fell during a storm in 1856. According to tradition, Connecticut's Royal Charter of 1662 was hidden within the hollow of the tree to thwart its confiscation by the English governor-general."

Sam Colt was an admirer of old trees and obtained some of the wood that became the grips of what I think is known as the "Charter Oak Series" of Colt pistols, which consisted of nine known 1855 "Root" side hammer pistols and one 1849 pocket pistol (these guns were later examples manufactured in the 1860s, so that post dates the demise of the tree in 1856). Several other items were crafted from the wood salvaged from the tree. Charter Oak wood, if authentic, would seem to be a likely source for the scales on a premium Buck knife.
Ron

wlyon · 02-01-2018, 09:42 AM

I agree it is probably oak. But could also be hickory or chestnut which have similar grains. Bill

DonVoigt · 02-01-2018, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wlyon

I agree it is probably oak. But could also be hickory or chestnut which have similar grains. Bill

Yes, and any of those would probably be "exotic" to Buck; even red plastic might be exotic!

sheepherder · 02-01-2018, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Yes, and any of those would probably be "exotic" to Buck; even red plastic might be exotic!

Red (and green) plastic was offered in a finger-groove drop-point pocket knife using the same bolsters, pins, and spring of the 110. It was the 426, I have two red [maroon actually] ones intact and two green ones disassembled to swap their blades into the 110 'chassis'. There was a black plastic too.

Pic below shows the black/green/red chassis. The first Rosewood is an unmodified saber-point 110, the second is my swap of the 426 drop-point into the 110 chassis.

Nice try, Don - but no cigar!

DonVoigt · 02-01-2018, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder

Red (and green) plastic was offered in a finger-groove drop-point pocket knife using the same bolsters, pins, and spring of the 110. It was the 426, I have two red [maroon actually] ones intact and two green ones disassembled to swap their blades into the 110 'chassis'. There was a black plastic too.

Pic below shows the black/green/red chassis. The first Rosewood is an unmodified saber-point 110, the second is my swap of the 426 drop-point into the 110 chassis.

Nice try, Don - but no cigar!

I'm at a loss for words.

rammercmc · 02-01-2018, 02:48 PM

I still have a couple old bucks I bought back in the 60s . My favorite Buck was one a friend owned that was converted to a switch blade. Only one I had ever seen.

sheepherder · 02-01-2018, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rammercmc

I still have a couple old bucks I bought back in the 60s . My favorite Buck was one a friend owned that was converted to a switch blade. Only one I had ever seen.

"Dual action" Buck 110's. EDM cuts, work nice. They converted them in the mid-2000's.

Ron Wood · 02-01-2018, 04:25 PM

I have a 501 that I have carried off and on for longer than I can remember. For me, Buck knives are a pain to sharpen, but they hold an edge really well. I have a number of knives, but I always keep at least one Buck.

Richard, I wouldn't mind having one of your "Dual action" Buck 110's, but is there any chance it would be available in a drop point blade? Let me know the particulars (availability, price, shipping, etc.) at ronwood1.nm at gmail.com.
Thanks,
Ron

sheepherder · 02-02-2018, 04:52 PM

Here's a couple of 'customs' I did back in the early 2000's. They're sorta based on the Buck 560's. The small one uses Buck 112 parts, with stainless steel 'skeletonized' grips over brass liners. The big one uses Buck 110 parts with Titanium 'skeletonized' grips over brass liners. This was the first and last time I will work with Titanium.

Titanium is scary stuff to machine. It's not like other metals like steel, brass, aluminum, or even Delrin. It machines more like hard rubber - like hockey pucks. You don't know what it's going to do.

01-31-2018, 06:29 PM	#1
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,197 Thanks: 1,416 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	Identify Wood ??? I'm getting ready to post a couple Buck knives with exotic [for Buck] alloy blades to eBay. One of them is the one in the bottom, but both have the same wood. I'd like to correctly identify it for the description. Can anyone say what wood this is??? Thank You! Attached Thumbnails __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

01-31-2018, 07:10 PM	#3
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,355 Times in 2,041 Posts	Looks like oak to me too. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

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Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 797 Thanks: 403 Thanked 640 Times in 339 Posts	I think we can all agree that the wood is oak...white oak. __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

01-31-2018, 09:18 PM	#5
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,197 Thanks: 1,416 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	Thank you all!!! It actually does matter. The Buck Custom Shop offers many scale choices; Water Buffalo horn, Sambar Stag antler, at least a couple kinds of wood. The plain-Jane 110's/112's are Rosewood, of which I have several dozen, so I knew it wasn't Rosewood. Some collectors specialize in the exotic alloys, like BG-42, CPM 154, S30V, etc. I have a half-dozen of those, and need to move them. I collected them back in the early 2000's. It was fun but it's a niche hobby. Not a lot of demand for any of the 'rarer' Bucks. Unfortunately, I have a couple dozen of them... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

01-31-2018, 10:45 PM	#8
Neil Young Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Scottsboro, Alabama Posts: 548 Thanks: 566 Thanked 443 Times in 168 Posts	There are some pretty significant voids in the dark streaks in the grain. If you want to have a smooth finish on furniture for instance, you must use some type of filler before finishing. I don't think it would be satisfactory for checkering at all. __________________ Neil The hurrier I go the behinder I get. Sometimes it takes me all day to get nothing done.

01-31-2018, 06:50 PM	#2
Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 530 Thanks: 0 Thanked 280 Times in 123 Posts	Looks like oak to me. Be creative. Call it whatever you wish. No one will ever be the wiser. KFS

01-31-2018, 09:25 PM	#6
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Rich, I know oak sounds un-exotic, but how about "Heart of Oak"? This was the wood used to build the British Navy during the Napoleonic Wars and if I'm not mistaken, was used for the keel of the U.S.S. Constitution as well. Norm

02-01-2018, 12:36 AM	#9
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	Perhaps it is wood from the fabled "Charter Oak". From Wikipedia: "The Charter Oak was an unusually large white oak tree growing on Wyllys Hyll in Hartford, Connecticut in the United States, from around the 12th or 13th century until it fell during a storm in 1856. According to tradition, Connecticut's Royal Charter of 1662 was hidden within the hollow of the tree to thwart its confiscation by the English governor-general." Sam Colt was an admirer of old trees and obtained some of the wood that became the grips of what I think is known as the "Charter Oak Series" of Colt pistols, which consisted of nine known 1855 "Root" side hammer pistols and one 1849 pocket pistol (these guns were later examples manufactured in the 1860s, so that post dates the demise of the tree in 1856). Several other items were crafted from the wood salvaged from the tree. Charter Oak wood, if authentic, would seem to be a likely source for the scales on a premium Buck knife. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-01-2018, 09:42 AM	#10
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,657 Thanks: 3,212 Thanked 2,620 Times in 972 Posts	I agree it is probably oak. But could also be hickory or chestnut which have similar grains. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

02-01-2018, 02:48 PM	#14
rammercmc User Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Buck pocket knives I still have a couple old bucks I bought back in the 60s . My favorite Buck was one a friend owned that was converted to a switch blade. Only one I had ever seen.

02-01-2018, 04:25 PM	#16
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	I have a 501 that I have carried off and on for longer than I can remember. For me, Buck knives are a pain to sharpen, but they hold an edge really well. I have a number of knives, but I always keep at least one Buck. Richard, I wouldn't mind having one of your "Dual action" Buck 110's, but is there any chance it would be available in a drop point blade? Let me know the particulars (availability, price, shipping, etc.) at ronwood1.nm at gmail.com. Thanks, Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-02-2018, 04:52 PM	#17
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,197 Thanks: 1,416 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	Here's a couple of 'customs' I did back in the early 2000's. They're sorta based on the Buck 560's. The small one uses Buck 112 parts, with stainless steel 'skeletonized' grips over brass liners. The big one uses Buck 110 parts with Titanium 'skeletonized' grips over brass liners. This was the first and last time I will work with Titanium. Titanium is scary stuff to machine. It's not like other metals like steel, brass, aluminum, or even Delrin. It machines more like hard rubber - like hockey pucks. You don't know what it's going to do. Attached Thumbnails __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter... Last edited by sheepherder; 02-02-2018 at 09:58 PM.