Police find hidden trove of Nazi artifacts in Argentina including P-08s!

Tinplatejeff · 06-20-2017, 06:06 PM

In the video there are multiple presentation Lugers in display cases!

At the 3:09 mark two P-08s are seen in the background and and a close up of one at the 3:25 mark, followed by multiple views from the 4:59 till the end of video mark!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/20/americ...rnd/index.html

https://youtu.be/Z5LoIKwoDs8

Puretexan · 06-20-2017, 09:57 PM

Can you imagine what all that would bring on Ebay?

alanint · 06-20-2017, 10:00 PM

This is mostly locally produced "fantasy crap". Very few of the prominent "Nazi artefacts" shown are pre 1945.

Tinplatejeff · 06-20-2017, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by alanint

This is mostly locally produced "fantasy crap". Very few of the prominent "Nazi artefacts" shown are pre 1945.

I was wondering that.

DonVoigt · 06-20-2017, 10:41 PM

I"m wondering - "what's the big deal"?
I doubt that stuff is illegal in Argentina- well maybe the pistols.

Why were they looking?

I agree , a lot looks like fantasy junque to me.

Puretexan · 06-20-2017, 11:06 PM

They said they thought he was dealing in illegal art work.

kurusu · 06-21-2017, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt

I"m wondering - "what's the big deal"?
I doubt that stuff is illegal in Argentina- well maybe the pistols.

Why were they looking?

I agree , a lot looks like fantasy junque to me.

NAZI propaganda articles appear to be illegal in Argentina, the man in the video said so.

DonVoigt · 06-21-2017, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kurusu

NAZI propaganda articles appear to be illegal in Argentina, the man in the video said so.

Articles- as in written articles? or objects?
Implying that the owner was spreading "Nazi" propaganda?
Thanks.

Puretexan · 06-21-2017, 09:00 AM

Gee Don, if he had them in a hidden room, would be hard to say he was spreading
propaganda. I wouldn't mine having one of those silver hourglasses.

DonVoigt · 06-21-2017, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Puretexan

Gee Don, if he had them in a hidden room, would be hard to say he was spreading
propaganda. I wouldn't mine having one of those silver hourglasses.

None of it makes sense, must be more to the story.
Why would" they" be in or know of a "hidden" room?

Kind of like those "arsenals" in homes "they" find from time to time- the owner had to be doing something else to come to the attention of the authorities.

George Anderson · 06-21-2017, 09:59 AM

I really liked the case of harmonicas.

mrerick · 06-21-2017, 11:03 AM

Here's another write on the story:

https://www.jta.org/2017/06/20/news-...-investigators

Apparently the objects will be donated to a Holocost museum in Argentina.

There were antiquity objects found in the cache. The discovery was related to an Interpol program on trafficking in illicit objects called "Operation Far East":

https://www.interpol.int/Crime-areas...ing/Operations

BTW, the hidden room apparently had an exterior window...

There were stories of submarines carrying 3rd Reich officials and treasure to Argentina's coast at the end of the war. I suppose that the only way to authenticate this stuff would be contemporary photographs showing objects.

RShaw · 06-21-2017, 11:44 AM

Wow!!
among all that stuff- two engraved presentation P08's....
How often does one find something like this?
WHo knows what lies under the foundations of Berlin?

Ron Wood · 06-21-2017, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RShaw

...WHo knows what lies under the foundations of Berlin?

Probably dirt.

RShaw · 06-21-2017, 01:55 PM

Ah well..... you never know.....
But... you're "probably" right

kurusu · 06-21-2017, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Articles- as in written articles? or objects?
Implying that the owner was spreading "Nazi" propaganda?
Thanks.

Both. Anything bearing a Swastika will get generally frowned upon. At least this side of the big pond. I don't like the NAZIS, not even those you call "liberals" in the States.

But I also dislike "Historic revisionism". Hiding things won't make them go away, some people seem to think so. Like some of those "liberals".

Edit. Skating on thin ice right now.

sheepherder · 06-21-2017, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kurusu

Edit. Skating on thin ice right now.

Nazis??? Or liberals??? Or is that redundant???

kurusu · 06-21-2017, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder

Nazis??? Or liberals??? Or is that redundant???

Birds of a feather.

DonVoigt · 06-21-2017, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrerick

Here's another write on the story:

https://www.jta.org/2017/06/20/news-...-investigators

Apparently the objects will be donated to a Holocost museum in Argentina.

There were antiquity objects found in the cache. The discovery was related to an Interpol program on trafficking in illicit objects called "Operation Far East":

https://www.interpol.int/Crime-areas...ing/Operations

BTW, the hidden room apparently had an exterior window...

There were stories of submarines carrying 3rd Reich officials and treasure to Argentina's coast at the end of the war. I suppose that the only way to authenticate this stuff would be contemporary photographs showing objects.

Thanks Marc,
typical media hype and BS, a "hidden" room with a window- what will they think of next.

Nazi's were welcome in Argentina at one time- I don't know when that policy ended- but there is probably a lot of genuine stuff really "hidden" there.

sheepherder · 06-21-2017, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt

typical media hype and BS, a "hidden" room with a window- what will they think of next.

You gotta rent the Johnny Depp film "Secret Window".

Depp should have gotten at least an Oscar nomination for it.

But no Nazis...and no Lugers...

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DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,355 Times in 2,041 Posts	I"m wondering - "what's the big deal"? I doubt that stuff is illegal in Argentina- well maybe the pistols. Why were they looking? I agree , a lot looks like fantasy junque to me. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	Here's another write on the story: https://www.jta.org/2017/06/20/news-...-investigators Apparently the objects will be donated to a Holocost museum in Argentina. There were antiquity objects found in the cache. The discovery was related to an Interpol program on trafficking in illicit objects called "Operation Far East": https://www.interpol.int/Crime-areas...ing/Operations BTW, the hidden room apparently had an exterior window... There were stories of submarines carrying 3rd Reich officials and treasure to Argentina's coast at the end of the war. I suppose that the only way to authenticate this stuff would be contemporary photographs showing objects. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

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alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	This is mostly locally produced "fantasy crap". Very few of the prominent "Nazi artefacts" shown are pre 1945.

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Puretexan User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Pearland Texas Posts: 176 Thanks: 11 Thanked 70 Times in 36 Posts	They said they thought he was dealing in illegal art work.

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Puretexan User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Pearland Texas Posts: 176 Thanks: 11 Thanked 70 Times in 36 Posts	Gee Don, if he had them in a hidden room, would be hard to say he was spreading propaganda. I wouldn't mine having one of those silver hourglasses.

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RShaw User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Venlo, the Netherlands Posts: 350 Thanks: 160 Thanked 170 Times in 90 Posts	Wow!! among all that stuff- two engraved presentation P08's.... How often does one find something like this? WHo knows what lies under the foundations of Berlin?

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