Lugerman Refinishing

bobasfett · 07-27-2012, 07:53 AM

I was curious if any of you knew Eugene Golubtsov aka Lugerman? I had an old Hensoldt sniper scope I sent him for refinishing. He of course told me it would take a while (a few months) but he has had it since April. He responded to a few of my initial update requests but over the past month, he has totally stopped replying to my emails. He also will not return voicemail messages.

My only recourse now is to consider my parts stolen and file a police report. I am ready to do this, but before I do, I thought I would reach out to the Luger community to see if something possibly happened to Eugene that I am not aware of i.e. medical issue or similar.

Any insight or help you can provide would be most appreciated.

Thanks!
Rob Pugh
Tampa FL

alanint · 07-27-2012, 08:12 AM

Rob,

Don't rush into anything yet. Eugene is a member here and everybody knows he takes awhile to return things, but his work is excellent. I'm sure he will see your message here and respond. Three months is actually not all that long for his turaround. Eugene is a straight up guy and has not taken your property. He is always slammed with work and will get to your scope as quickly as he can.

CAP Black · 07-27-2012, 09:22 AM

He apparently doesn't like to answer when he knows that he isn't able to give you the answer that you are looking for. His time frame is just long and drawn out. Three months is not a long time for him - for almost any job. Just be patient and "in do time he will get your job finished."
Getting shipments out doesn't seem to be his forte.
Jack

Curly1 · 07-27-2012, 10:33 AM

Welcome to the forum Rob.

You may want to view this thread, there is also a link near the end to another thread over on Still's site of disatisified customers.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=26058

Edward Tinker · 07-27-2012, 11:31 AM

As Gary said, and a hint to others, before doing biz with anybody, do a search on the company or person.

Less positive usually equals something fishy

Terry Tiell · 07-27-2012, 11:51 AM

When I was gathering parts to rebuild my Luger I tried Lugerman to buy some of my parts from but he never replied to any of my e-mails. I couldn't understand someone advertising parts for sale and then when they have a buyer do not respond. I was forced to purchase my parts elsewhere.

I plan to send my Luger out to be expertly re-done and blued as I'm not completely happy with the color I got when I did it. I'm still looking for who would do a decent job for a reasonable price but I know where it won't be going.

Curly1 · 07-27-2012, 03:03 PM

Board member Thor has a steller reputation for refinishing lugers.

bobasfett · 07-28-2012, 12:49 AM

Thanks gents. I got an email from him today, and he is alive and well and should have my scope back to me soon. Eugene was very up front with me that he takes a long time to turn things around, but he did give me a time frame on when the work would be done. When that time came and went and I was no longer receiving updates when prompted, I was obviously concerned. It just comes down to communication with me. Anyway, I'll keep everyone up to date on what happens and post some pictures of the scope when I get it back.

Thanks again for everyone's replies. I've got a couple broomhandles and hope to add a Luger to the collection some day. When that happens, I'm sure I'll be back as a more premanent member.

larryhoosier · 08-12-2012, 06:05 PM

I will post this timeline and let you decide if you want to do business with this fellow.
May 7, 2012 - sent email to "Luger man" via his web sight inquiring as to the availability of 2 P08 parts.
> May 7, 2012 - received response to inquiry, yes parts are available, and how to post payment yada, yada, yada.
>May 7, 2012 - sent order and check for payment.
waiting...
June 26, 2012 - emailed inquiry as to why parts which were already paid for (cashed and returned cancelled check) were not sent.
> June 26, 2012 - quick reply. "I will send them out this weekend."
waiting...
July 26, 2012 - emailed inquiry about parts
>no reply
waiting...
August 12, 2012 - sent inquiry w/snide note.
If anyone really wants to do business with this guy I have only one comment...caveat emptor

Curly1 · 08-12-2012, 07:16 PM

Thanx for posting, looks like another Lugerman dissatisfied customer.

07-27-2012, 07:53 AM	#1
bobasfett New User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Lugerman Refinishing I was curious if any of you knew Eugene Golubtsov aka Lugerman? I had an old Hensoldt sniper scope I sent him for refinishing. He of course told me it would take a while (a few months) but he has had it since April. He responded to a few of my initial update requests but over the past month, he has totally stopped replying to my emails. He also will not return voicemail messages. My only recourse now is to consider my parts stolen and file a police report. I am ready to do this, but before I do, I thought I would reach out to the Luger community to see if something possibly happened to Eugene that I am not aware of i.e. medical issue or similar. Any insight or help you can provide would be most appreciated. Thanks! Rob Pugh Tampa FL

07-27-2012, 10:33 AM	#4
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,247 Thanks: 125 Thanked 717 Times in 374 Posts	Welcome to the forum Rob. You may want to view this thread, there is also a link near the end to another thread over on Still's site of disatisified customers. http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=26058 __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

07-27-2012, 11:31 AM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	As Gary said, and a hint to others, before doing biz with anybody, do a search on the company or person. Less positive usually equals something fishy __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-27-2012, 11:51 AM	#6
Terry Tiell User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: The Fascist State of Maryland Posts: 224 Thanks: 55 Thanked 26 Times in 14 Posts	When I was gathering parts to rebuild my Luger I tried Lugerman to buy some of my parts from but he never replied to any of my e-mails. I couldn't understand someone advertising parts for sale and then when they have a buyer do not respond. I was forced to purchase my parts elsewhere. I plan to send my Luger out to be expertly re-done and blued as I'm not completely happy with the color I got when I did it. I'm still looking for who would do a decent job for a reasonable price but I know where it won't be going. __________________ Trying to redo grand dads Luger the best I can.

07-27-2012, 03:03 PM	#7
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,247 Thanks: 125 Thanked 717 Times in 374 Posts	Board member Thor has a steller reputation for refinishing lugers. __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

07-27-2012, 08:12 AM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Rob, Don't rush into anything yet. Eugene is a member here and everybody knows he takes awhile to return things, but his work is excellent. I'm sure he will see your message here and respond. Three months is actually not all that long for his turaround. Eugene is a straight up guy and has not taken your property. He is always slammed with work and will get to your scope as quickly as he can.

07-27-2012, 09:22 AM	#3
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 174 Times in 96 Posts	He apparently doesn't like to answer when he knows that he isn't able to give you the answer that you are looking for. His time frame is just long and drawn out. Three months is not a long time for him - for almost any job. Just be patient and "in do time he will get your job finished." Getting shipments out doesn't seem to be his forte. Jack

07-28-2012, 12:49 AM	#8
bobasfett New User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks gents. I got an email from him today, and he is alive and well and should have my scope back to me soon. Eugene was very up front with me that he takes a long time to turn things around, but he did give me a time frame on when the work would be done. When that time came and went and I was no longer receiving updates when prompted, I was obviously concerned. It just comes down to communication with me. Anyway, I'll keep everyone up to date on what happens and post some pictures of the scope when I get it back. Thanks again for everyone's replies. I've got a couple broomhandles and hope to add a Luger to the collection some day. When that happens, I'm sure I'll be back as a more premanent member.

08-12-2012, 06:05 PM	#9
larryhoosier New User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SE Indiana Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	my experience with Eugene I will post this timeline and let you decide if you want to do business with this fellow. May 7, 2012 - sent email to "Luger man" via his web sight inquiring as to the availability of 2 P08 parts. > May 7, 2012 - received response to inquiry, yes parts are available, and how to post payment yada, yada, yada. >May 7, 2012 - sent order and check for payment. waiting... June 26, 2012 - emailed inquiry as to why parts which were already paid for (cashed and returned cancelled check) were not sent. > June 26, 2012 - quick reply. "I will send them out this weekend." waiting... July 26, 2012 - emailed inquiry about parts >no reply waiting... August 12, 2012 - sent inquiry w/snide note. If anyone really wants to do business with this guy I have only one comment...caveat emptor

08-12-2012, 07:16 PM	#10
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,247 Thanks: 125 Thanked 717 Times in 374 Posts	Thanx for posting, looks like another Lugerman dissatisfied customer. __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary