Unusual find

Mike B · 11-08-2011, 12:30 PM

Hi Guys,
I was visiting a friend this morning at his welding shop. He told me that he thought that I was interested in "German stuff". Naturally my answer was "what you got?" He walked out with a brass drum drain. Here are a couple of pictures. I asked him if he wanted to sell it. He said find out what it is worth. Any thoughts?

Mike

cirelaw · 11-08-2011, 12:58 PM

Antique can bring more valuable especially antique fixtures. A Nazi emble in one bathroom maybe worked in nazi Germany. Its like a 'KKK' on you bathtub. Bury in in someone elses backyard! Its nasty and I'm German! Eric/cirelaw

Mike B · 11-08-2011, 01:52 PM

I didn't plan on actually using it. Just thought it was interesting. Besides, it doesn't go on a bathtub; it is drain for a 55 gallon drum.

Mike

cirelaw · 11-08-2011, 02:02 PM

Sorry Mike Its symbol still has an affect to many. ps My plumbing skills stink especially since my stroke! I'm sorry!I'm the worse offender!

Ron Wood · 11-08-2011, 02:29 PM

The swastika is also an American Indian symbol as well as that of Finland and a host of early Slavic and other antiquity cultures. The symbol on the faucet almost certainly has nothing whatsoever to do with a Nazi connection.

Edward Tinker · 11-08-2011, 03:09 PM

I'd say it was stamped on much later than when it was made?

Just my feeling?

Ed

cirelaw · 11-08-2011, 03:29 PM

Ron I never had never given that a thought. I know the Nazi's had a huge ego but stamping bathroom fixtures. You are all right!

alanint · 11-08-2011, 05:13 PM

Crudely Hand engraved actually. I think this is a folk remedy to protect the quality of whatever came out of the spigot. This is not Nazi.

cirelaw · 11-08-2011, 05:17 PM

What about 'Josephine The Plumber'? Remember Her?

lugerholsterrepair · 11-08-2011, 06:30 PM

Just after the turn of the century this was a good luck symbol. The NSDAP made it extremely unpopular in the subsequent decades. Before the Nazi regieme though there was no negative connotation whatever.

cirelaw · 11-08-2011, 06:34 PM

I understand it was also a symbol back to pagan times!

cirelaw · 11-08-2011, 06:40 PM

The symbol amoung other predated christianity.

CavScoutEurope · 11-09-2011, 08:28 AM

If you go to the Air and Space museum in DC they have the original nose cone that went over the propeller of the Spirit of Saint Lewis. On the inside there is a swastika. The little card describing it says that it is a Native American good luck charm.

cirelaw · 11-09-2011, 09:54 AM

Where exactly is it visible?

sheepherder · 11-09-2011, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

Just after the turn of the century this was a good luck symbol.

Around the turn of the century, people here in the US would have Sunday picnics in graveyards...It was considered a happy place, where kids would laugh & play, and elders would sit back and ruminate...Eat a picnic lunch, play with the dog, toss a ball around, roll hoops...

Wonder why that tradition didn't continue...

Graveyards around here are in better condition than public parks...

alanint · 11-09-2011, 02:05 PM

Still done in Mexico every "Day of the Dead" (Halloween).

But then again, attending public hangings was a family event back then as well!

cirelaw · 11-09-2011, 02:12 PM

So was castration with a rusty butter knife!!

SteveM · 11-09-2011, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

The swastika is also an American Indian symbol as well as that of Finland and a host of early Slavic and other antiquity cultures.

And Nepalese as well...

SteveM

wayne8661 · 11-09-2011, 09:10 PM

There is a building right behind city hall in Philadelphia I believe it is a jewelers shop that even to this day still sports an interlocked swastika motif on its store front.

W

CavScoutEurope · 11-10-2011, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw

Where exactly is it visible?

It is on the second floor of the museum near the aircraft. It was replaced right before the St. Lewis's famous flight. It is in the inside of the cone.

11-08-2011, 12:30 PM	#1
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 272 Times in 100 Posts	Unusual find Hi Guys, I was visiting a friend this morning at his welding shop. He told me that he thought that I was interested in "German stuff". Naturally my answer was "what you got?" He walked out with a brass drum drain. Here are a couple of pictures. I asked him if he wanted to sell it. He said find out what it is worth. Any thoughts? Mike Attached Thumbnails

11-08-2011, 12:58 PM	#2
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	I Think If Anything It Reduses Its Value Antique can bring more valuable especially antique fixtures. A Nazi emble in one bathroom maybe worked in nazi Germany. Its like a 'KKK' on you bathtub. Bury in in someone elses backyard! Its nasty and I'm German! Eric/cirelaw

11-08-2011, 02:02 PM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Sorry Mike Its symbol still has an affect to many. ps My plumbing skills stink especially since my stroke! I'm sorry!I'm the worse offender! Attached Thumbnails

11-08-2011, 02:29 PM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	The swastika is also an American Indian symbol as well as that of Finland and a host of early Slavic and other antiquity cultures. The symbol on the faucet almost certainly has nothing whatsoever to do with a Nazi connection. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

11-08-2011, 06:30 PM	#10
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Just after the turn of the century this was a good luck symbol. The NSDAP made it extremely unpopular in the subsequent decades. Before the Nazi regieme though there was no negative connotation whatever. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-08-2011, 01:52 PM	#3
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 272 Times in 100 Posts	I didn't plan on actually using it. Just thought it was interesting. Besides, it doesn't go on a bathtub; it is drain for a 55 gallon drum. Mike

11-08-2011, 03:09 PM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,960 Thanks: 2,062 Thanked 4,592 Times in 2,114 Posts	I'd say it was stamped on much later than when it was made? Just my feeling? Ed

11-08-2011, 03:29 PM	#7
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Ron I never had never given that a thought. I know the Nazi's had a huge ego but stamping bathroom fixtures. You are all right!

11-08-2011, 05:13 PM	#8
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Crudely Hand engraved actually. I think this is a folk remedy to protect the quality of whatever came out of the spigot. This is not Nazi.

11-08-2011, 05:17 PM	#9
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	What about 'Josephine The Plumber'? Remember Her?

11-08-2011, 06:34 PM	#11
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	I understand it was also a symbol back to pagan times!

11-08-2011, 06:40 PM	#12
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	You are Right! The symbol amoung other predated christianity. Attached Images

11-09-2011, 08:28 AM	#13
CavScoutEurope User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 86 Thanks: 102 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts	If you go to the Air and Space museum in DC they have the original nose cone that went over the propeller of the Spirit of Saint Lewis. On the inside there is a swastika. The little card describing it says that it is a Native American good luck charm.

11-09-2011, 09:54 AM	#14
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Are You Referring To The Original Hagning From The Ceiling Where exactly is it visible? Attached Images

11-09-2011, 02:05 PM	#16
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Still done in Mexico every "Day of the Dead" (Halloween). But then again, attending public hangings was a family event back then as well!

11-09-2011, 02:12 PM	#17
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	So was castration with a rusty butter knife!!

11-09-2011, 09:10 PM	#19
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	There is a building right behind city hall in Philadelphia I believe it is a jewelers shop that even to this day still sports an interlocked swastika motif on its store front. W