1918 Artillery marks and problem

trenchdog1914 · 04-23-2011, 06:15 PM

I have a matching 1918 Artillery , with "9MM" stamped upside down above the proof marks. The 'font' looks German. No import marks anywhere, or non German proofs. Any idea why this was done? Also, gun will not fire unless I put slight pressure on the side plate while pulling the rigger. I cleaned out all the crud around the sear, but don't want to start bending stuff. What remedy is recommended? Thanks.

mrerick · 04-23-2011, 07:48 PM

First, don't try to bend or form anything related to the trigger bar. It's hardened, and will break. There was a special tool for adjusting these, and the process involves heating it to remove the temper first.

I've never seen "9MM" stamped onto an Artillery. Is your pistol import marked with "Made in Germany" or "Germany" stamped somewhere?

Is there any play as the takedown lever pushes the trigger plate against the receiver? Is there any play in the plunger that is at the front end of the sear bar?

I have seen mention of ways to build up the surface where the trigger contacts the trigger bar. It may be one way of approaching a fix.

Marc

trenchdog1914 · 04-24-2011, 08:57 AM

No "GermanY" or other import marks. Thanks for the direction on where to look for looseness. What about adjusting the flat spring behind the sear bar?

Edward Tinker · 04-24-2011, 09:42 AM

I'd like to see pictures of the 9mm markings?

Sounds like it went to another country and it wanted to be obvious what caliber it is.

Could even have come to the USA and someone stamped it?

Ed

trenchdog1914 · 04-25-2011, 09:26 AM

Here's a pix of the proof mark area with the upside down 9MM

alanint · 04-25-2011, 10:57 AM

My gut feeling is that this is some sort of goverment stamp at time of import or transfer. I can't imagine anybody else being so careless of appearances as to put the mark upside down in this way.

04-23-2011, 06:15 PM	#1
trenchdog1914 New User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1918 Artillery marks and problem I have a matching 1918 Artillery , with "9MM" stamped upside down above the proof marks. The 'font' looks German. No import marks anywhere, or non German proofs. Any idea why this was done? Also, gun will not fire unless I put slight pressure on the side plate while pulling the rigger. I cleaned out all the crud around the sear, but don't want to start bending stuff. What remedy is recommended? Thanks.

04-23-2011, 07:48 PM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	First, don't try to bend or form anything related to the trigger bar. It's hardened, and will break. There was a special tool for adjusting these, and the process involves heating it to remove the temper first. I've never seen "9MM" stamped onto an Artillery. Is your pistol import marked with "Made in Germany" or "Germany" stamped somewhere? Is there any play as the takedown lever pushes the trigger plate against the receiver? Is there any play in the plunger that is at the front end of the sear bar? I have seen mention of ways to build up the surface where the trigger contacts the trigger bar. It may be one way of approaching a fix. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

04-24-2011, 08:57 AM	#3
trenchdog1914 New User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1918 Art'y No "GermanY" or other import marks. Thanks for the direction on where to look for looseness. What about adjusting the flat spring behind the sear bar?

04-24-2011, 09:42 AM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,965 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,593 Times in 2,115 Posts	I'd like to see pictures of the 9mm markings? Sounds like it went to another country and it wanted to be obvious what caliber it is. Could even have come to the USA and someone stamped it? Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-25-2011, 09:26 AM	#5
trenchdog1914 New User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here's a pix of the proof mark area with the upside down 9MM Attached Thumbnails

04-25-2011, 10:57 AM	#6
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	My gut feeling is that this is some sort of goverment stamp at time of import or transfer. I can't imagine anybody else being so careless of appearances as to put the mark upside down in this way.