1914 Type Navy Question

Luke · 01-17-2002, 10:09 AM

Question 1.

From what I have read, it appears that 1914 type Navy Lugers should have the same serial number markings as Commercial Lugers of the same era. Is this correct?

Question 2.

In Kenyon's book, page 34, he states that commercial Lugers should have the last two digits on the receiver stop lug. He also states that the last two digits should be on the underside of the front toggle link.

Would VERY MUCH appreciate date from other 1914 type Navy owners regarding the above.

Thanks for your help.

Luke

Luke · 01-17-2002, 09:07 PM

bill m · 01-17-2002, 11:13 PM

Hi,

Yes, to question #1, as the serial number placement is of the commercial style.

Question #2, as related to the Navy Lugers is Yes. The last two digits of the serial number is found on the lug and the underside of the toggle. My 1906 is also marked this same way.

tom · 01-18-2002, 02:24 AM

Hi Luke,

While the location of the serial numbers will be as for a commercial piece, the numbering schema (4 digits usually followed by an alphabetic suffix) is decidedly military.

Bill M's comments about SN digits on piece parts is valid.

hope this helps,

tom

Luke · 01-18-2002, 02:23 PM

Herb · 01-18-2002, 03:35 PM

Luke, for what it's worth, on page 118 of Fred Datig's book,The Luger Pistol, he states "Naval Models without grip safties and not dated, have been encountered and these are placed as having been produced sometime during the 1908 to 1914 period. Some have been reported not only without dates but also with commercial proof marks and serial numbers".

Not sure if this would apply beyond 1914 but it appears that in 1914 there may have been some of these produced.

01-17-2002, 11:13 PM	#3
bill m User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 385 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1914 Type Navy Question Hi, Yes, to question #1, as the serial number placement is of the commercial style. Question #2, as related to the Navy Lugers is Yes. The last two digits of the serial number is found on the lug and the underside of the toggle. My 1906 is also marked this same way.

01-18-2002, 02:24 AM	#4
tom User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 269 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: 1914 Type Navy Question Hi Luke, While the location of the serial numbers will be as for a commercial piece, the numbering schema (4 digits usually followed by an alphabetic suffix) is decidedly military. Bill M's comments about SN digits on piece parts is valid. hope this helps, tom

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Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Thanks for the help. (EOM)

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Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 1914 Type Navy Question Luke, for what it's worth, on page 118 of Fred Datig's book,The Luger Pistol, he states "Naval Models without grip safties and not dated, have been encountered and these are placed as having been produced sometime during the 1908 to 1914 period. Some have been reported not only without dates but also with commercial proof marks and serial numbers". Not sure if this would apply beyond 1914 but it appears that in 1914 there may have been some of these produced.

01-17-2002, 10:09 AM	#1
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	1914 Type Navy Question Question 1. From what I have read, it appears that 1914 type Navy Lugers should have the same serial number markings as Commercial Lugers of the same era. Is this correct? Question 2. In Kenyon's book, page 34, he states that commercial Lugers should have the last two digits on the receiver stop lug. He also states that the last two digits should be on the underside of the front toggle link. Would VERY MUCH appreciate date from other 1914 type Navy owners regarding the above. Thanks for your help. Luke

01-17-2002, 09:07 PM	#2
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	COME ON GUYS ! ! I REALLY NEED HELP WITH THIS. (EOM)