How good are the repro parts?

Stevie · 01-05-2011, 11:26 PM

my favorite shooter P08 got a healthy workout this afternoon trying out some mags I've picked up. Some good mags..some bad. Another topic in the shooting reloading section on that topic.

Anyhow..just came in from my man-cave and cleaning the Mauser Luger. Had the toggle-train out..and noticed the extractor tension wasn't right..

I had noted a single failure to extract out of probably almost 240 rounds fired this afternoon. The mag was one that was being troublesome..so I didn't think much of it. No further failures to extract..and I shot quite a bit more with the Mauser P08..trying some of the mags that came up working at least twice more to check their reliability. Gun was still working when I quit and gathered brass and other debris.

So the extractor wasn't right..hadn't ever removed a Luger extractor..so got my favorite handgun disassembly book out...pushed the pin out..and don't really see anything wrong. Clean the crud from the bolt..clean the extractor..Put the Mauser back together..and no real tension on the extractor?

I go retrieve a couple other Lugers..a DWM and Erfurt...they got plenty of extracto tension! I take the old DWM apart..remove it's extractor..and it becomes obvious the Mauser extractor is busted..the little thin ear that rides under the pin has broken off..I find it still in the slot..despite the fact I had wiped the crud out..the little sliver of steel had stayed put by the spring.

Well hoot. No big deal..I think I'll just swipe the extractor from the DWM..it's number electro-penciled out...I've always suspected it to be a later model extractor anyhow. Stick a replacement in later.

Well..it won't quite fit the Mauser 42 bolt..almost..but not quite...I stick the broken extractor in the DWM bolt and pin it..won't stay in..

So really...Just how interchangeable are P08 Lugers?

Since my Mauser 42 is a shooter..I really wouldn't mind putting in a high quality new part..are the new Reproduction parts I see available here and there worth buying?

Thanks..Stevie

alanint · 01-06-2011, 12:10 AM

All these guns had a certain degree of hand fitting, (thus all those serial numbers that are supposed to match). The only replacement part I have multiple experiences with are the sideplates and virtually all of them required minor to moderate hand fitting to seat and function properly.

Vlim · 01-06-2011, 08:21 AM

I dropped both replacement extractors and sideplates in place.

The extractors usually need a bit of thinning on the sides.

The sideplates I got dropped right in and also restored the trigger pull to an acceptable level on both DWM pistols I tried them on.

The repro ejectors were not a success. Broke quite quickly.

Lugerdoc · 01-06-2011, 10:15 AM

Stevie et al, I keep telling people --- Luger parts are not interchangable. Even switching orig parts from gun to gun may require some fitting. This is even more true for new repro parts. Over the years, I've seen some exc made repros and some terrible ones. I generally do not stock or sell the repro cast extractors or ejectors, because they require too much fitting and unless properly fitting are prone to quick breakage. TH

sheepherder · 01-09-2011, 04:31 PM

Not all repro parts are created equal...I ordered a repro sear spring for a C96 Mauser Broomhandle some time ago (before buying an original from Alvin) from Numrich/Gun Parts Corp, and when it came I was delighted...Fully machined (not cast), perfect fit, and worked great...once...

The second time I cocked the pistol, the spring did not spring back...it stayed bent...

...Inferior steel/unhardened/untempered...Choose one...

01-05-2011, 11:26 PM	#1
Stevie User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ok. Posts: 212 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	How good are the repro parts? my favorite shooter P08 got a healthy workout this afternoon trying out some mags I've picked up. Some good mags..some bad. Another topic in the shooting reloading section on that topic. Anyhow..just came in from my man-cave and cleaning the Mauser Luger. Had the toggle-train out..and noticed the extractor tension wasn't right.. I had noted a single failure to extract out of probably almost 240 rounds fired this afternoon. The mag was one that was being troublesome..so I didn't think much of it. No further failures to extract..and I shot quite a bit more with the Mauser P08..trying some of the mags that came up working at least twice more to check their reliability. Gun was still working when I quit and gathered brass and other debris. So the extractor wasn't right..hadn't ever removed a Luger extractor..so got my favorite handgun disassembly book out...pushed the pin out..and don't really see anything wrong. Clean the crud from the bolt..clean the extractor..Put the Mauser back together..and no real tension on the extractor? I go retrieve a couple other Lugers..a DWM and Erfurt...they got plenty of extracto tension! I take the old DWM apart..remove it's extractor..and it becomes obvious the Mauser extractor is busted..the little thin ear that rides under the pin has broken off..I find it still in the slot..despite the fact I had wiped the crud out..the little sliver of steel had stayed put by the spring. Well hoot. No big deal..I think I'll just swipe the extractor from the DWM..it's number electro-penciled out...I've always suspected it to be a later model extractor anyhow. Stick a replacement in later. Well..it won't quite fit the Mauser 42 bolt..almost..but not quite...I stick the broken extractor in the DWM bolt and pin it..won't stay in.. So really...Just how interchangeable are P08 Lugers? Since my Mauser 42 is a shooter..I really wouldn't mind putting in a high quality new part..are the new Reproduction parts I see available here and there worth buying? Thanks..Stevie

01-06-2011, 10:15 AM	#4
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Stevie et al, I keep telling people --- Luger parts are not interchangable. Even switching orig parts from gun to gun may require some fitting. This is even more true for new repro parts. Over the years, I've seen some exc made repros and some terrible ones. I generally do not stock or sell the repro cast extractors or ejectors, because they require too much fitting and unless properly fitting are prone to quick breakage. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

01-09-2011, 04:31 PM	#5
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,197 Thanks: 1,416 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	Not all repro parts are created equal...I ordered a repro sear spring for a C96 Mauser Broomhandle some time ago (before buying an original from Alvin) from Numrich/Gun Parts Corp, and when it came I was delighted...Fully machined (not cast), perfect fit, and worked great...once... The second time I cocked the pistol, the spring did not spring back...it stayed bent... ...Inferior steel/unhardened/untempered...Choose one... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

01-06-2011, 12:10 AM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	All these guns had a certain degree of hand fitting, (thus all those serial numbers that are supposed to match). The only replacement part I have multiple experiences with are the sideplates and virtually all of them required minor to moderate hand fitting to seat and function properly.

01-06-2011, 08:21 AM	#3
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	I dropped both replacement extractors and sideplates in place. The extractors usually need a bit of thinning on the sides. The sideplates I got dropped right in and also restored the trigger pull to an acceptable level on both DWM pistols I tried them on. The repro ejectors were not a success. Broke quite quickly.