I have a 1913 luger and need info pls.

daskraut · 10-12-2008, 09:38 PM

I know nothing about this pistol, can you help me identify it please?.I bought it 20-25 years ago and it has been sitting in my gunsmiths closet for 18 years!. Now that it is back, I want to embrace it and bring it to standard. But first I need basic info so I don't ask super dumb questions.

Edward Tinker · 10-12-2008, 09:40 PM

There is no need to post the same thing in two places, as it will be more difficult for you to keep track.

ADMIN

daskraut · 10-12-2008, 09:59 PM

Sorry, the idea was to go to a proper forum area as I was told my pistol is not an P08 and I was in a P08 forum thread area. I figured I had better start at the bottom of the info ladder!.

Edward Tinker · 10-12-2008, 10:29 PM

makes sense.

What you have is a DWM from 1913 that has had a longer barrel put onto it. 1913's are not as common as say a 1917 or 1918....

Probably makes a heck of a nice shooter

Ed

daskraut · 10-12-2008, 11:56 PM

What is the proper designation for the pistol?, everyone talks of artillary, navy, commercial etc, what is it and what barrel should go on it?. I hope to buy a barrel with the barrel extension for it so I can just slap it on. After waiting so long to get it back, I am gunsmith shy!.

daskraut · 10-13-2008, 12:48 AM

Dear sir,does not the barrel and barrel extension get headspaced as one unit, or does the entire pistol need to be fitted to the barrel?. I do so hope you will accept my dearest apology for daring to think of the pistol in question as a mere firearm that would have interchangability with others of it's kind.
Now with that said, the pistol in the photos above professionally fitted with a proper 4.5" barrel would be what model/designation?. Is it an ex military pistol or is it a commercial pistol?. Now do forgive me for dragging my knuckles on your forum but one must learn to walk sometime.

Ron Wood · 10-13-2008, 01:30 AM

Your Luger is an early military model. A new barrel can be fitted and would have to be properly headspaced by a competent gunsmith, hopefully much quicker than 18 years! If you just want to put the proper length barrel on it and have it in shootable condition, it probably will be in the neighborhood of $200, maybe less. When it is done, you will not have a very valuable piece, probably $400-500 or so, but it will be a fun gun. Feel free to drag your knuckles here any time...usually there aren't any dumb questions but somtimes there will be dumb answers. Good luck

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daskraut · 10-13-2008, 01:39 AM

Sarcasm?, I dare say my good man that no such thing was intended or implied, I was just trying to elevate myself to the percieved level that the thread seemed to call for. You command of the english language is excellent, dare I say you may consider in the future to add a little humanity to your posts, unless of course you are a northern German , if that is the case you are spot-on. Just kidding!. There just seems to be quite the "pebble beach" attitude here towards these pistols that I have never encountered on a gun forum before, more jewlers loop collector than shooter. I will rise to the occasion. So, is it military or commercial?????

daskraut · 10-13-2008, 01:46 AM

Ron!, my man from the republic of Texas!. Thank you for your kind words. If you know of a gunsmith that is competent and semi affordable, please reccomend him to me. I have many other dopey hobbies that keep my bankroll thin, but I have $$ earmarked for this pistol that I love and am so happy to be back in contact with. When reblued by me it may not win a trophy at the Concours d'Elegance of P08's, but it will shine in my eyes!. : )

John Sabato · 10-13-2008, 08:44 AM

daskraut,

Welcome to the Lugerforum. I hope you have found the answers given you here helpful... now for some administrative points... please read this post that is a "sticky" at the top of the New Collectors forum about why your photos need to be posted HERE instead of a place like photobucket...

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...threadid=20081

daskraut · 10-13-2008, 10:04 AM

Thanks guys, great info. I will use the on-site photo hardware from now on. I feel it is a bonus to load photos on-site, it is just rare to see. I will make this into a fun shooter that is safe. The chamber is about .020 ballooned oversize!, this leads me to believe the barrel is crappolla anyway. Now I just have to find a good gunsmith here in so-cal that is not backlogged, feel free to recommend one. I have done bluing before with great results so that will be done by me.

10-12-2008, 09:38 PM	#1
daskraut User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hooterville, cal. Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have a 1913 luger and need info pls. I know nothing about this pistol, can you help me identify it please?.I bought it 20-25 years ago and it has been sitting in my gunsmiths closet for 18 years!. Now that it is back, I want to embrace it and bring it to standard. But first I need basic info so I don't ask super dumb questions. __________________ Who, me?

10-12-2008, 09:59 PM	#3
daskraut User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hooterville, cal. Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sorry, the idea was to go to a proper forum area as I was told my pistol is not an P08 and I was in a P08 forum thread area. I figured I had better start at the bottom of the info ladder!. __________________ Who, me?

10-12-2008, 10:29 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	makes sense. What you have is a DWM from 1913 that has had a longer barrel put onto it. 1913's are not as common as say a 1917 or 1918.... Probably makes a heck of a nice shooter Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-12-2008, 11:56 PM	#5
daskraut User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hooterville, cal. Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What is the proper designation for the pistol?, everyone talks of artillary, navy, commercial etc, what is it and what barrel should go on it?. I hope to buy a barrel with the barrel extension for it so I can just slap it on. After waiting so long to get it back, I am gunsmith shy!. __________________ Who, me?

10-13-2008, 12:48 AM	#6
daskraut User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hooterville, cal. Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dear sir,does not the barrel and barrel extension get headspaced as one unit, or does the entire pistol need to be fitted to the barrel?. I do so hope you will accept my dearest apology for daring to think of the pistol in question as a mere firearm that would have interchangability with others of it's kind. Now with that said, the pistol in the photos above professionally fitted with a proper 4.5" barrel would be what model/designation?. Is it an ex military pistol or is it a commercial pistol?. Now do forgive me for dragging my knuckles on your forum but one must learn to walk sometime. __________________ Who, me?

10-12-2008, 09:40 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	There is no need to post the same thing in two places, as it will be more difficult for you to keep track. ADMIN

10-13-2008, 01:30 AM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	Your Luger is an early military model. A new barrel can be fitted and would have to be properly headspaced by a competent gunsmith, hopefully much quicker than 18 years! If you just want to put the proper length barrel on it and have it in shootable condition, it probably will be in the neighborhood of $200, maybe less. When it is done, you will not have a very valuable piece, probably $400-500 or so, but it will be a fun gun. Feel free to drag your knuckles here any time...usually there aren't any dumb questions but somtimes there will be dumb answers. Good luck ! __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

10-13-2008, 01:39 AM	#8
daskraut User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hooterville, cal. Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sarcasm?, I dare say my good man that no such thing was intended or implied, I was just trying to elevate myself to the percieved level that the thread seemed to call for. You command of the english language is excellent, dare I say you may consider in the future to add a little humanity to your posts, unless of course you are a northern German , if that is the case you are spot-on. Just kidding!. There just seems to be quite the "pebble beach" attitude here towards these pistols that I have never encountered on a gun forum before, more jewlers loop collector than shooter. I will rise to the occasion. So, is it military or commercial????? __________________ Who, me?

10-13-2008, 01:46 AM	#9
daskraut User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hooterville, cal. Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ron!, my man from the republic of Texas!. Thank you for your kind words. If you know of a gunsmith that is competent and semi affordable, please reccomend him to me. I have many other dopey hobbies that keep my bankroll thin, but I have $$ earmarked for this pistol that I love and am so happy to be back in contact with. When reblued by me it may not win a trophy at the Concours d'Elegance of P08's, but it will shine in my eyes!. : ) __________________ Who, me?

10-13-2008, 08:44 AM	#10
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	daskraut, Welcome to the Lugerforum. I hope you have found the answers given you here helpful... now for some administrative points... please read this post that is a "sticky" at the top of the New Collectors forum about why your photos need to be posted HERE instead of a place like photobucket... http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...threadid=20081 __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-13-2008, 10:04 AM	#11
daskraut User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hooterville, cal. Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks guys, great info. I will use the on-site photo hardware from now on. I feel it is a bonus to load photos on-site, it is just rare to see. I will make this into a fun shooter that is safe. The chamber is about .020 ballooned oversize!, this leads me to believe the barrel is crappolla anyway. Now I just have to find a good gunsmith here in so-cal that is not backlogged, feel free to recommend one. I have done bluing before with great results so that will be done by me. __________________ Who, me?