Ammo Price Jump

davidkachel · 07-31-2007, 08:19 PM

For those few who might not yet know...

I have it on very good authority from two different sources, both of which I trust, that ammo will take a huge jump in price on Sept 1.
Better trundle on over to Wally World and buy 'em out. I already did.

Navy · 08-01-2007, 08:35 AM

Bought 30-06 military surp ball at Chantilly last weekend...$10 per box of 20. This stuff was $7.50/100 not so long ago.

One of the major re-manufacturers, Georgia Cartridge Company had NONE in stock. Said they could not get components. Another dealer said prices should jump 20-25% September 1.

Makes it tough on machine gun shooters!

Tom A

davidkachel · 08-01-2007, 09:38 AM

No doubt someone(s) is going after our guns by going after ammunition. If they can get ammo up to $100 a box, that will have a substantial effect. I seriously doubt we're using so much brass and lead in the Middle East that we're suffering shortages here.

MikeP · 08-01-2007, 03:35 PM

Most all that cheap surplus ammo is gone forever.
It disappeared in the 70's and came back in the 90's, though with less variation.
All those murky European stashes have been pretty much cleaned out.
Reports of China and India buying up what's left for the metal content.
A lot of us have some hoarded, but you probably are seeing the end.

stefanosg · 08-02-2007, 05:10 AM

The war in Iraq is also a strain on resources, with alot of ammo production geared toward that effort. I have also heard the Chinese have been buying up alot of brass.

davidkachel · 08-02-2007, 11:02 AM

Whenever there is a difficuly with the acquisition of guns or ammunition, suspect the gun-grabbers. They are totally amoral. When it has been proven the gun-grabbers are innocent, continue to suspect the gun-grabbers.

SteveM · 08-04-2007, 08:39 AM

http://natchezss.com/ammo.cfm?category=3

Go here and read the letters from some factory reps about the price of ammunition about to go up again.

I was in Academy Sports yesterday and they said that they have had 4 price increases this year. The person that I spoke to said that they have been told the price could double on some items by the end of the year. He said that lead fishing weights have doubled in price.

azlaw · 08-04-2007, 12:26 PM

The war situation is consuming an enormous share of the ammunition production capacity worldwide. But it isn't the only cause. A very significant cause is the rise in demand for, and thus cost of, copper, which is used in brass and bullet jackets. Evidence of these can bee seen here in Southern Arizona, where we are having a copper mining boom with mines closed for decades now re-opening.

I think that ammunition will continue to increase in price for the next few years. As the Mid-East conflicts die down, as the Yugoslavian conflicts did eventually, then surplus ammunition in modern calibers will become available. This will take many years to come about, however.

Bottom line - get it now, the prices are going up.

H

bowdeen · 08-04-2007, 01:08 PM

My Wally World has alteady jumped from 14 plus change to 15 plus.I wonder if that is it for now? Still can't get cheaper on line it looks like
Not all that long ago I was paying 11 plus change.
I knew the day would come and have been saving brass on the 9 (have been loading the 45 for a long time)stocked up on powder just need the bullits and small primers

lew1 · 08-04-2007, 01:34 PM

Better buy the bullets and primers now, else you are going to pay even more for them also.

trigger643 · 08-05-2007, 12:49 AM

I've already seen my 7.62 nato match go from $16.00 a box of 20 to $30.00 and I can't find anyone taking orders for a crate at the moment. 5.56 went from $90/1,000 to $190/1,000. .338 Lapua went from $2.50/round to $5.00/round. At the rate this is going, I'm going to have to start reloading... again...

I still have a few thousand rounds of standard nato 5.56 and 7.62 packed away, 900 rounds of .45acp, 2400 rounds of 124gr fmj 9mm nato, but I'm short on match and big gun fodder. Humm... I kinda look like an extremist poster child...

Vlim · 08-05-2007, 06:32 AM

The high copper/brass prices are causing side-effects over here as well. Just about anything made of copper or brass is being stolen. Plaques from monuments, statues, copper wiring from lighting strike protection, even copper plating from one of the large storm flood protection gates at the Dutch coastline!

IMHO, the large consumption of raw materials by countries as China is the main problem, although the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan take up a lot of resources as well.

07-31-2007, 08:19 PM	#1
davidkachel User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 784 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Ammo Price Jump For those few who might not yet know... I have it on very good authority from two different sources, both of which I trust, that ammo will take a huge jump in price on Sept 1. Better trundle on over to Wally World and buy 'em out. I already did. __________________ A heroin habit would be cheaper.

08-01-2007, 09:38 AM	#3
davidkachel User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 784 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	No doubt someone(s) is going after our guns by going after ammunition. If they can get ammo up to $100 a box, that will have a substantial effect. I seriously doubt we're using so much brass and lead in the Middle East that we're suffering shortages here. __________________ A heroin habit would be cheaper.

08-02-2007, 05:10 AM	#5
stefanosg User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East Central Florida Posts: 367 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts	The war in Iraq is also a strain on resources, with alot of ammo production geared toward that effort. I have also heard the Chinese have been buying up alot of brass. __________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

08-02-2007, 11:02 AM	#6
davidkachel User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 784 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Whenever there is a difficuly with the acquisition of guns or ammunition, suspect the gun-grabbers. They are totally amoral. When it has been proven the gun-grabbers are innocent, continue to suspect the gun-grabbers. __________________ A heroin habit would be cheaper.

08-04-2007, 01:34 PM	#10
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	Better buy the bullets and primers now, else you are going to pay even more for them also. __________________ charlie

08-01-2007, 08:35 AM	#2
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Bought 30-06 military surp ball at Chantilly last weekend...$10 per box of 20. This stuff was $7.50/100 not so long ago. One of the major re-manufacturers, Georgia Cartridge Company had NONE in stock. Said they could not get components. Another dealer said prices should jump 20-25% September 1. Makes it tough on machine gun shooters! Tom A

08-01-2007, 03:35 PM	#4
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	Most all that cheap surplus ammo is gone forever. It disappeared in the 70's and came back in the 90's, though with less variation. All those murky European stashes have been pretty much cleaned out. Reports of China and India buying up what's left for the metal content. A lot of us have some hoarded, but you probably are seeing the end.

08-04-2007, 08:39 AM	#7
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	http://natchezss.com/ammo.cfm?category=3 Go here and read the letters from some factory reps about the price of ammunition about to go up again. I was in Academy Sports yesterday and they said that they have had 4 price increases this year. The person that I spoke to said that they have been told the price could double on some items by the end of the year. He said that lead fishing weights have doubled in price.

08-04-2007, 12:26 PM	#8
azlaw User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 207 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	The war situation is consuming an enormous share of the ammunition production capacity worldwide. But it isn't the only cause. A very significant cause is the rise in demand for, and thus cost of, copper, which is used in brass and bullet jackets. Evidence of these can bee seen here in Southern Arizona, where we are having a copper mining boom with mines closed for decades now re-opening. I think that ammunition will continue to increase in price for the next few years. As the Mid-East conflicts die down, as the Yugoslavian conflicts did eventually, then surplus ammunition in modern calibers will become available. This will take many years to come about, however. Bottom line - get it now, the prices are going up. H

08-04-2007, 01:08 PM	#9
bowdeen User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My Wally World has alteady jumped from 14 plus change to 15 plus.I wonder if that is it for now? Still can't get cheaper on line it looks like Not all that long ago I was paying 11 plus change. I knew the day would come and have been saving brass on the 9 (have been loading the 45 for a long time)stocked up on powder just need the bullits and small primers

08-05-2007, 12:49 AM	#11
trigger643 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Murfreesboro Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I've already seen my 7.62 nato match go from $16.00 a box of 20 to $30.00 and I can't find anyone taking orders for a crate at the moment. 5.56 went from $90/1,000 to $190/1,000. .338 Lapua went from $2.50/round to $5.00/round. At the rate this is going, I'm going to have to start reloading... again... I still have a few thousand rounds of standard nato 5.56 and 7.62 packed away, 900 rounds of .45acp, 2400 rounds of 124gr fmj 9mm nato, but I'm short on match and big gun fodder. Humm... I kinda look like an extremist poster child... __________________ "There are three reasons to own a gun: To protect yourself and your family, to hunt dangerous and delicious animals, and to keep the King of England out of your face." Ã¢?? Krusty the Clown

08-05-2007, 06:32 AM	#12
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	The high copper/brass prices are causing side-effects over here as well. Just about anything made of copper or brass is being stolen. Plaques from monuments, statues, copper wiring from lighting strike protection, even copper plating from one of the large storm flood protection gates at the Dutch coastline! IMHO, the large consumption of raw materials by countries as China is the main problem, although the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan take up a lot of resources as well.