WWII Field Armorer's Repair Kit

mauro · 06-25-2006, 02:53 PM

Hello Guys,
I have just received the WWII Field Armorer's Repair Kit that I have bought some weeks ago. The case is date 1938, the items inside from 1938 up to 43. Some items have the Mauser banner and the Waffenamt.

The external case is long 36 cm, the height is 17 and it is large 9 cm.

It is really compact but you cannot image how the space has been well managed.

The internal case contains in the middle a box with three pockets were you can store spare items and additional tools. In the photos you can see the different configurations you can work with.

I am still waiting the Pin Gauge for the MG08. The previous owner forgot to post this item. I will receive it in the next days.

I have added some other Mauser P08 items. In the two pockets there is still space available for other additional useful repairing tools.

Some others items are available on the bottom of the pockets case but are not in the photos.

I guess it is a really nice item.

Let me know your opinion.

Cheers,
Mauro

lugerholsterrepair · 06-25-2006, 03:38 PM

Mauro...What a beautiful tool case! I am envious...Jerry Burney

Vlim · 06-25-2006, 04:19 PM

Mauro,

You did well. It's a stunning set.

Don M · 06-25-2006, 04:55 PM

Fantastic!!!

the gunman · 06-25-2006, 05:54 PM

Mauro " CONGRATULATIONS" What a find I envy you. What a great addtion to any collection.

Ron Wood · 06-25-2006, 06:52 PM

My, oh my, oh my! Will there be no end to the wonderful things you turn up? (I certainly hope not...we really enjoy seeing them, even if we are a little envious.)

Roadkill · 06-25-2006, 09:38 PM

Looks great! This is once again complete unadulterated speculation on my part, but I think the KI.WK means Kiste 1, Werk Kiste or box one/tool box

rk

Ron Wood · 06-25-2006, 09:56 PM

RK,
I was reading the marking as Kl., which I thought might mean Klein Werk Kiste, small work box, as opposed to the larger armorer's kit with more tools in the bigger wooden box.

Roadkill · 06-26-2006, 07:24 AM

I agree, that makes more sense Ron.

rk

Aaron · 06-26-2006, 01:43 PM

Mauro, I am anxious to personally examine all your treasures. Please let me know the location and opening date of your Mauser Museum. Also, please let me know the cost of admission.

mauro · 06-26-2006, 03:22 PM

Guys,
I am so happy that you appreciate the Case Tool. I really love it as well.
Thank you so much.
In the next days, I will receive some additional tools to add to the case.
Of course I will post the photos.
Aaron, I leave in Belgium just give me a call before in order to arrange the visit.

Cheers,
Mauro

HerbZ · 06-30-2006, 07:43 PM

I think that's a big "K" with a lower case "L" for Klasse. I found "Kl" in my old Langenscheidt as the German abbreviation for Klasse. "Wk" may be for Werk, but that's just a guess. Perhaps that's why it's in such great condition; it was only used for classroom instruction and was never in the field?

Ron Wood · 06-30-2006, 09:16 PM

HerbZ,
As I have noted previously, Kl. can also represent "Klein", or "small", which is probably a bit more likely than "Klasse" as the kit is clearly designed for field repair rather than classroom instruction. Klasse, as noted in your Langensheidt dictionary, is closer to "classification" rather than "classroom". To expand a little on my previous post, the "WK." probably is an abbreviation for "Werkzeug Kiste", or "tool kit". So the marking probably identifies this as a "small tool kit", as opposed to "large tool kit", which was quite a bit bigger than this kit and contained a lot more tools for field repair of several types of weapons.

mauro · 07-01-2006, 02:25 AM

Hello Guys,
According to the previous owner, a German, the mening of the abbreviation means
Kl.Wk.= kleine Waffenkiste

This is in accordance with the Ron interpretation.
Did you notice that the box has two fastens for the belt. It was possible to carry the box with a belt around the shoulder in order to have the hands free.

I have added some pics of this particular and you can see that the belt connection is still around the fasten.

In addition a photo of the top of the box where it is possible to see the date 1938 and the waffenamt.

Cheers,
Mauro

Pete Ebbink · 07-01-2006, 10:11 PM

Hi Mauro,

Maybe something on e-Bay to add to your great tool chest :

http://cgi.ebay.com/MG34-MG42-K98-Ma...QQcmdZViewItem

mauro · 07-02-2006, 04:46 AM

Hi Pete,
Thank you for your suggestion. Actually I have already in my tool collection the caliper you mention.
But I would like to show you something. In fact the Mauser caliper has a normal size not compatible with the space available in the tool box. Actually the caliper in the tool box has a reduced size as you can see in in the attached photos (on the top the reduced caliper, on the bottom the standard Mauser caliber).

The second photo shows the caliper with his original Mauser banner holster.

Thank you.
Cheers,
Mauro

Vlim · 07-02-2006, 06:28 AM

Hi,

The auction is full of crap. The fact that a tool has a mauser logo only means that it was made by Mauser. They had a flourishing tool manufacturing division which turned out good quality measuring equipment. They also made electric calculators, office furniture, cars and a whole lot of other products which had little or nothing to do with their arms production business.

Beware of sellers claiming that a mauser logo on a tool means that it was used in arms manufacture or maintenance. That such tools exist, however, is proved by Mauro's excellent kit.

mauro · 07-02-2006, 09:29 AM

Thank you Gerben to highlight this point that for me was evident but it could be not.
You are totally right, there is no evidence that the caliper on ebay was used by Mauser Waffen division itself or by an armourer, it is only possible to state that has been made by Mauser.
In fact in Oberndorf was also located the Mauser-Messzeug division that was in charge to build measuring-tool and it utilized the same Mauser banner like others divisions of the big Mauser company.
These kinds of tools have a really elevated quality. I have some of these really nice tools.

Some of these tools were also used by the Mauser Firearm Division as well as by armourers but, I repeat, it is wrong to establish a direct relationship between these tools and the Mauser Firearm division without providing evidences.

I guess that this is an important clarification to avoid wrong description like the one the seller of this caliper wrote.

Cheers,
Mauro

Ron Wood · 07-02-2006, 10:35 AM

Mauro,
If I might disagree with your German friend, since the box was never intended to store or transport a weapon, I think the more likely interpretation would be Werkzeug Kiste rather than Waffen Kiste.

mauro · 07-02-2006, 10:48 AM

Hello Ron,
Good point. As I have written before the previous owner agrees with your interpretation but I have copied and paste the wrong line from the email written in German.
Therefore:

Kl.Wk.= Kleine Werkzeugkiste

Thank you
Cheers,
Mauro

06-25-2006, 02:53 PM	#1
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 350 Times in 129 Posts	WWII Field Armorer's Repair Kit Hello Guys, I have just received the WWII Field Armorer's Repair Kit that I have bought some weeks ago. The case is date 1938, the items inside from 1938 up to 43. Some items have the Mauser banner and the Waffenamt. The external case is long 36 cm, the height is 17 and it is large 9 cm. It is really compact but you cannot image how the space has been well managed. The internal case contains in the middle a box with three pockets were you can store spare items and additional tools. In the photos you can see the different configurations you can work with. I am still waiting the Pin Gauge for the MG08. The previous owner forgot to post this item. I will receive it in the next days. I have added some other Mauser P08 items. In the two pockets there is still space available for other additional useful repairing tools. Some others items are available on the bottom of the pockets case but are not in the photos. I guess it is a really nice item. Let me know your opinion. Cheers, Mauro __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

06-25-2006, 03:38 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Mauro...What a beautiful tool case! I am envious...Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-25-2006, 04:55 PM	#4
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	Fantastic!!! __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

06-25-2006, 06:52 PM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	My, oh my, oh my! Will there be no end to the wonderful things you turn up? (I certainly hope not...we really enjoy seeing them, even if we are a little envious.) __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-25-2006, 09:56 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	RK, I was reading the marking as Kl., which I thought might mean Klein Werk Kiste, small work box, as opposed to the larger armorer's kit with more tools in the bigger wooden box. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-25-2006, 04:19 PM	#3
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Mauro, You did well. It's a stunning set.

06-25-2006, 05:54 PM	#5
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Mauro " CONGRATULATIONS" What a find I envy you. What a great addtion to any collection.

06-25-2006, 09:38 PM	#7
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,634 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	Looks great! This is once again complete unadulterated speculation on my part, but I think the KI.WK means Kiste 1, Werk Kiste or box one/tool box rk

06-26-2006, 07:24 AM	#9
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,634 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	I agree, that makes more sense Ron. rk

06-26-2006, 01:43 PM	#10
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Mauro, I am anxious to personally examine all your treasures. Please let me know the location and opening date of your Mauser Museum. Also, please let me know the cost of admission.

06-26-2006, 03:22 PM	#11
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 350 Times in 129 Posts	Guys, I am so happy that you appreciate the Case Tool. I really love it as well. Thank you so much. In the next days, I will receive some additional tools to add to the case. Of course I will post the photos. Aaron, I leave in Belgium just give me a call before in order to arrange the visit. Cheers, Mauro __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

06-30-2006, 07:43 PM	#12
HerbZ User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 128 Thanks: 20 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts	I think that's a big "K" with a lower case "L" for Klasse. I found "Kl" in my old Langenscheidt as the German abbreviation for Klasse. "Wk" may be for Werk, but that's just a guess. Perhaps that's why it's in such great condition; it was only used for classroom instruction and was never in the field? __________________ "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." Mark Twain

06-30-2006, 09:16 PM	#13
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	HerbZ, As I have noted previously, Kl. can also represent "Klein", or "small", which is probably a bit more likely than "Klasse" as the kit is clearly designed for field repair rather than classroom instruction. Klasse, as noted in your Langensheidt dictionary, is closer to "classification" rather than "classroom". To expand a little on my previous post, the "WK." probably is an abbreviation for "Werkzeug Kiste", or "tool kit". So the marking probably identifies this as a "small tool kit", as opposed to "large tool kit", which was quite a bit bigger than this kit and contained a lot more tools for field repair of several types of weapons. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-01-2006, 02:25 AM	#14
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 350 Times in 129 Posts	Hello Guys, According to the previous owner, a German, the mening of the abbreviation means Kl.Wk.= kleine Waffenkiste This is in accordance with the Ron interpretation. Did you notice that the box has two fastens for the belt. It was possible to carry the box with a belt around the shoulder in order to have the hands free. I have added some pics of this particular and you can see that the belt connection is still around the fasten. In addition a photo of the top of the box where it is possible to see the date 1938 and the waffenamt. Cheers, Mauro __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

07-01-2006, 10:11 PM	#15
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Mauro, Maybe something on e-Bay to add to your great tool chest : http://cgi.ebay.com/MG34-MG42-K98-Ma...QQcmdZViewItem

07-02-2006, 04:46 AM	#16
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 350 Times in 129 Posts	Hi Pete, Thank you for your suggestion. Actually I have already in my tool collection the caliper you mention. But I would like to show you something. In fact the Mauser caliper has a normal size not compatible with the space available in the tool box. Actually the caliper in the tool box has a reduced size as you can see in in the attached photos (on the top the reduced caliper, on the bottom the standard Mauser caliber). The second photo shows the caliper with his original Mauser banner holster. Thank you. Cheers, Mauro __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

07-02-2006, 06:28 AM	#17
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Hi, The auction is full of crap. The fact that a tool has a mauser logo only means that it was made by Mauser. They had a flourishing tool manufacturing division which turned out good quality measuring equipment. They also made electric calculators, office furniture, cars and a whole lot of other products which had little or nothing to do with their arms production business. Beware of sellers claiming that a mauser logo on a tool means that it was used in arms manufacture or maintenance. That such tools exist, however, is proved by Mauro's excellent kit.

07-02-2006, 09:29 AM	#18
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 350 Times in 129 Posts	Thank you Gerben to highlight this point that for me was evident but it could be not. You are totally right, there is no evidence that the caliper on ebay was used by Mauser Waffen division itself or by an armourer, it is only possible to state that has been made by Mauser. In fact in Oberndorf was also located the Mauser-Messzeug division that was in charge to build measuring-tool and it utilized the same Mauser banner like others divisions of the big Mauser company. These kinds of tools have a really elevated quality. I have some of these really nice tools. Some of these tools were also used by the Mauser Firearm Division as well as by armourers but, I repeat, it is wrong to establish a direct relationship between these tools and the Mauser Firearm division without providing evidences. I guess that this is an important clarification to avoid wrong description like the one the seller of this caliper wrote. Cheers, Mauro __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

07-02-2006, 10:35 AM	#19
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	Mauro, If I might disagree with your German friend, since the box was never intended to store or transport a weapon, I think the more likely interpretation would be Werkzeug Kiste rather than Waffen Kiste. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-02-2006, 10:48 AM	#20
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 350 Times in 129 Posts	Hello Ron, Good point. As I have written before the previous owner agrees with your interpretation but I have copied and paste the wrong line from the email written in German. Therefore: Kl.Wk.= Kleine Werkzeugkiste Thank you Cheers, Mauro __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.