1902 Fat Barrell Luger

Tom Whiteman · 03-23-2006, 09:15 AM

Is it possible that this one is correct??

http://www.rockislandauction.com/auc...hp?LotNum=1790

drbuster · 03-23-2006, 09:23 AM

Tom, it "looks" correct and original, but of course we all know that Mauser was NOT the manufacturer.

tudorbug · 03-23-2006, 09:29 AM

There are two "fat barrell" lugers, the above noted by Tom, and this American Eagle fat barrell:

http://www.rockislandauction.com/auc...hp?LotNum=1791

They are lot numbers 1790 and 1791.

David

Edward Tinker · 03-23-2006, 10:24 AM

an incredible amount of "professionally restored guns" on this auction, again...

drbuster · 03-24-2006, 09:11 AM

Ed, Neither of the explanations for the 1902 fat barrels say that any restoration has been done, but it would help to see for yourself.

Edward Tinker · 03-24-2006, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by drbuster
Ed, Neither of the explanations for the 1902 fat barrels say that any restoration has been done, but it would help to see for yourself.

You are correct, I just meant in the auction themselves for "lugers"...

Steinar · 05-04-2006, 12:20 PM

..schmeisser barrels ground down to fit a Lugers, looks very much alike that barrel..

Navy · 05-04-2006, 01:56 PM

In general, RIA descriptions tend to be pretty accurate; they use words/phrases such as "assembled", "custom made", "replicates" when referring tomade up or boosted guns. I would tend to believe this one is legit based on the patina and wear pattern, but would not be willing to take that kind of bet with the bucks involved here unless i or someone I know and trust has seen the gun.

Tom A.

Ron Wood · 05-04-2006, 03:05 PM

Both Lugers look pretty good, particularly the Commercial. If you have the bucks it might be worth a go...but with a no questions return after examining it. I agree with Tom A that RIA is getting a bit more cautious with their descriptions, and if a piece is a bit hinky they usually will hedge their wording.

Pete Ebbink · 05-05-2006, 01:12 PM

Does this sentence from the Commerical FB auction ad concern anyone ???

" The commercial proofs and bore diameter markings on the bottom of the barrel appear to be very faint, but the serial number looks correct and matches the pistol. "

Ron Wood · 05-05-2006, 01:43 PM

Nope. For some reason, the BUG proofs on these Fat Barrels are struck very lightly. I have a mint AE FB, and FGS also had a mint one for sale. Both have -very- light barrel markings. The Commercial sounds pretty righteous to me.

03-23-2006, 09:15 AM	#1
Tom Whiteman User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phila, PA Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 33 Times in 4 Posts	1902 Fat Barrell Luger Is it possible that this one is correct?? http://www.rockislandauction.com/auc...hp?LotNum=1790

03-23-2006, 10:24 AM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	an incredible amount of "professionally restored guns" on this auction, again... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-04-2006, 12:20 PM	#7
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	..schmeisser barrels ground down to fit a Lugers, looks very much alike that barrel.. __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

05-04-2006, 03:05 PM	#9
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,256 Times in 1,724 Posts	Both Lugers look pretty good, particularly the Commercial. If you have the bucks it might be worth a go...but with a no questions return after examining it. I agree with Tom A that RIA is getting a bit more cautious with their descriptions, and if a piece is a bit hinky they usually will hedge their wording. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

05-05-2006, 01:43 PM	#11
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,256 Times in 1,724 Posts	Nope. For some reason, the BUG proofs on these Fat Barrels are struck very lightly. I have a mint AE FB, and FGS also had a mint one for sale. Both have -very- light barrel markings. The Commercial sounds pretty righteous to me. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-23-2006, 09:23 AM	#2
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Tom, it "looks" correct and original, but of course we all know that Mauser was NOT the manufacturer.

03-23-2006, 09:29 AM	#3
tudorbug Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 40 Times in 29 Posts	There are two "fat barrell" lugers, the above noted by Tom, and this American Eagle fat barrell: http://www.rockislandauction.com/auc...hp?LotNum=1791 They are lot numbers 1790 and 1791. David

03-24-2006, 09:11 AM	#5
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Ed, Neither of the explanations for the 1902 fat barrels say that any restoration has been done, but it would help to see for yourself.

05-04-2006, 01:56 PM	#8
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	In general, RIA descriptions tend to be pretty accurate; they use words/phrases such as "assembled", "custom made", "replicates" when referring tomade up or boosted guns. I would tend to believe this one is legit based on the patina and wear pattern, but would not be willing to take that kind of bet with the bucks involved here unless i or someone I know and trust has seen the gun. Tom A.

05-05-2006, 01:12 PM	#10
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Does this sentence from the Commerical FB auction ad concern anyone ??? " The commercial proofs and bore diameter markings on the bottom of the barrel appear to be very faint, but the serial number looks correct and matches the pistol. "