"Imported from

zeke1312 · 09-26-2005, 10:44 PM

Canada." I've seen this comment several times on GunsAmerica under ads by P. Dunster. What is that statement telling me? Are imports from Canada made inoperable? If so, what does it take to restore it to operable condition? What effect does this have on its value?

Edward Tinker · 09-26-2005, 10:51 PM

Canada and the UK have different laws. Guns in Canada are being sold because guns with less than 4 inche barrels are not allowed, not because they have been deactivated.

Import markings bring the value down to most folks... I believe it affects the value, but not enough to prevent me from wanting a gun or two!

Ed

Pete Ebbink · 09-30-2005, 11:05 AM

TAC's photo album in located in the "Member Gallery", on page 10, 2nd. album from the top.

policeluger · 09-30-2005, 12:04 PM

Peter is a great guy to deal with, the import marks are small, while not always desireable, still has marginal effect on price......and again a great honest dealer.

Frank · 09-30-2005, 08:27 PM

Howard, I totally agree. Imports from Canada are much different than imports from Europe (mostly East Block Countries). I look at these pistols as Canadian bring backs and are, in my opinion, as good as US bring backs!! I wouldn't degrade them in the least!!

Luke · 09-30-2005, 09:25 PM

I have bought three from Peter Dunster, and they have been good (and fair) purchases.

Luke

tudorbug · 10-01-2005, 09:12 AM

I have one from Peter, a near mint byf42 that I have had for a year perhaps, and I have a really hard time finding his import mark.

It is by no means glaringly visible, compared to, for example, Interarms import.

I would highly recommend Peter.

David

Herb · 10-01-2005, 12:54 PM

I too have bought from Peter, a great guy to deal with and he describes his Lugers conservately in my opinion. I intend to buy from him again if he finds what I'm looking for.

lugerlou · 10-01-2005, 05:17 PM

Ed/ Weimar police and tacfoley

Ed's quote

Canada and the UK have different laws. Guns in Canada are being sold because guns with less than 4 inch barrels are not allowed,

Tac's quote--Canada, so far, does not de-activate handguns.

Ed,Tac this is not correct, the residents that have been grandfathered under our gun laws are required to be the holder of a 12/6 handgun designation which allows the purchase and ownership of handguns under 105 mm (4 inch) this also includes 32 cal and all of the so called saturday night specials which cannot be exported outside of Canada.

If one chooses to have the luger or any other phrohibited handgun (12/6 designate) deactivated or a barrel over the 105 mm (four inch barrel length) installed then any registered handgun owner with restricted status may posses or purchase these firearms

I have lost a few good deals including a dutch contract luger that the owner wished to have deactivated to retain ownership as he did not have the required designate from the Canadian firearms centre.

You may purchase directly from an estate in which the owner has passed away provided the luger is in the hands of the trustee and the luger has not been previously been registered with the CFC. these lugers are few and far between as most are turned in prior to one finding out the wherabouts of the lugers and they are destroyed.

As to Canada specifically requiring firearms to be deactivated this again falls into a seperate act .

Phrohibited handguns have to be deactivated if the owner has not been grandfathered or run the risk of loss.

In respect to full auto's the ownership has to be covered by an order in council at the federal government level and can only be traded or exchanged between collectors/dealers.

Most of the full auto's including the military collection of machine guns can only be purchased by having the firearm deactivated, they are referred as dewatts ie--german mg's, browning 50's, thompson's, ww#1 vickers etc

As to Mr. Dunsters activities he is still free to do his own thing and that is how it should be.

lugerlou · 10-01-2005, 06:07 PM

Tac

The laws are constantly changing and your gun store may have been correct at the time, they have cost the taxpayer close to 1.3 billion so far and are still in a state of disaray.

09-30-2005, 09:25 PM	#6
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	I have bought three from Peter Dunster, and they have been good (and fair) purchases. Luke __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

10-01-2005, 12:54 PM	#8
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I too have bought from Peter, a great guy to deal with and he describes his Lugers conservately in my opinion. I intend to buy from him again if he finds what I'm looking for. __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

09-26-2005, 10:44 PM	#1
zeke1312 User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 167 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	"Imported from Canada." I've seen this comment several times on GunsAmerica under ads by P. Dunster. What is that statement telling me? Are imports from Canada made inoperable? If so, what does it take to restore it to operable condition? What effect does this have on its value?

09-26-2005, 10:51 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,963 Thanks: 2,064 Thanked 4,593 Times in 2,115 Posts	Canada and the UK have different laws. Guns in Canada are being sold because guns with less than 4 inche barrels are not allowed, not because they have been deactivated. Import markings bring the value down to most folks... I believe it affects the value, but not enough to prevent me from wanting a gun or two! Ed

09-30-2005, 11:05 AM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	TAC's photo album in located in the "Member Gallery", on page 10, 2nd. album from the top.

09-30-2005, 12:04 PM	#4
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Peter is a great guy to deal with, the import marks are small, while not always desireable, still has marginal effect on price......and again a great honest dealer.

09-30-2005, 08:27 PM	#5
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 164 Times in 87 Posts	Howard, I totally agree. Imports from Canada are much different than imports from Europe (mostly East Block Countries). I look at these pistols as Canadian bring backs and are, in my opinion, as good as US bring backs!! I wouldn't degrade them in the least!!

10-01-2005, 09:12 AM	#7
tudorbug Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 40 Times in 29 Posts	I have one from Peter, a near mint byf42 that I have had for a year perhaps, and I have a really hard time finding his import mark. It is by no means glaringly visible, compared to, for example, Interarms import. I would highly recommend Peter. David

10-01-2005, 05:17 PM	#9
lugerlou User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ed/ Weimar police and tacfoley Ed's quote Canada and the UK have different laws. Guns in Canada are being sold because guns with less than 4 inch barrels are not allowed, Tac's quote--Canada, so far, does not de-activate handguns. Ed,Tac this is not correct, the residents that have been grandfathered under our gun laws are required to be the holder of a 12/6 handgun designation which allows the purchase and ownership of handguns under 105 mm (4 inch) this also includes 32 cal and all of the so called saturday night specials which cannot be exported outside of Canada. If one chooses to have the luger or any other phrohibited handgun (12/6 designate) deactivated or a barrel over the 105 mm (four inch barrel length) installed then any registered handgun owner with restricted status may posses or purchase these firearms I have lost a few good deals including a dutch contract luger that the owner wished to have deactivated to retain ownership as he did not have the required designate from the Canadian firearms centre. You may purchase directly from an estate in which the owner has passed away provided the luger is in the hands of the trustee and the luger has not been previously been registered with the CFC. these lugers are few and far between as most are turned in prior to one finding out the wherabouts of the lugers and they are destroyed. As to Canada specifically requiring firearms to be deactivated this again falls into a seperate act . Phrohibited handguns have to be deactivated if the owner has not been grandfathered or run the risk of loss. In respect to full auto's the ownership has to be covered by an order in council at the federal government level and can only be traded or exchanged between collectors/dealers. Most of the full auto's including the military collection of machine guns can only be purchased by having the firearm deactivated, they are referred as dewatts ie--german mg's, browning 50's, thompson's, ww#1 vickers etc As to Mr. Dunsters activities he is still free to do his own thing and that is how it should be.

10-01-2005, 06:07 PM	#10
lugerlou User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tac The laws are constantly changing and your gun store may have been correct at the time, they have cost the taxpayer close to 1.3 billion so far and are still in a state of disaray.