Some info please.

SixPackSuperBee · 05-04-2005, 03:08 AM

Hello all. I just recently purchased a Luger from a lady whose husband had passed away and she didnt want it in the house anymore since she knew nothing of firearms. Actually I bought several firearms from her and included in the sale was a 1916 DWM luger in what looks to me like alomost new condition. Her husbands older brother supposedly got it during WW2. It has not been reblued and the finish is practically flawless....no scratches, pits or wear on the finish. I have never owned a Luger and dont know a lot about them but I do know that it is a numbers matching pistol since all the part numbers are the same. Included in the sale was a Remington-Rand .45 ACP 1911, an L.A.R. Grizzly .50 AE, an import Belgian made FN-FAL in 7.62x51 and the Luger. I got all this for the price of $550.00.
I know I made a good deal and even told the lady that the guns were worth more than that but she just didnt want them around the house. Could anyone teel me an approximate value of the Luger or how I can find out more about the pistol? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

pipeman45 · 05-04-2005, 03:39 AM

If you could post some pictures of the pistol it would help set the value. Please take close-up shots of all sides and any markings. And please as a favor to an old 1911 fan, include some shots of the Remington.

John Sabato · 05-04-2005, 10:12 AM

Yes please post the photos...

The Remington-Rand .45 in respectable shape is probably worth in the neighborhood of $1000 USD

Edward Tinker · 05-04-2005, 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by SixPackSuperBee
I got all this for the price of $550.00.
I know I made a good deal and even told the lady that the guns were worth more than that but she just didnt want them around the house. Could anyone teel me an approximate value of the Luger or how I can find out more about the pistol? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Well, a "shooter" luger can go for $400-$500 or so, all depends on condition and originality (i.e. not reblued).

If you think of selling, I'd be interested in the 1911 or the luger

but as the Good Lord says, cheaper is better. John, he did say that didn't he?

Ed

trigger643 · 05-04-2005, 11:16 AM

how many times has this forum been approached by these attic stories? just curious.

I hope sixpack at least gave the old lady a good night kiss.

I am most interested in the FN/FAL, if it is truly Belgian it needs a good home, say in Colorado

Edward Tinker · 05-04-2005, 11:21 AM

between you and me, we can give all of them a nice Colorado home Glen

sumoj275 · 05-04-2005, 12:08 PM

The FAL alone is anywhere in the neighborhood of 1400-2200.

Man, I wish I could luck into that deal :^)

SixPackSuperBee · 05-04-2005, 12:27 PM

I will try to post some photos a.s.a.p. Sounds kinda like Trigger thinks its just a "story" to be polite. Why would I make it up? Kinda silly dont you think? Anyway, the lady I made the purchase with got a bit more than $550.00 from me actually, I own a lawn service and landscape company (this is how I met her) and I agreed to mow her lawn this summer for half price. About 1,500.00 dollars in labor but she is a great customer. Pics coming when I can (no scanner of my own) and the FN is NOT for sale....sorry.

trigger643 · 05-04-2005, 02:29 PM

Sixpack, let me tell you a story...

A guy is driving home from a sales call. He's just outside Yakima, Washington. He sees a grey haired old lady out in an apple orchard from the interstate. She's shooting something and it's giving her problems. He can't believe it, so he stops. It can't be what he thinks it is. but, it is. He talks with her for a moment. Then Trades a Ruger 10-22 with a scope for this bothersome weapon.

That was me. 1989. I traded a fine ruger 10-22 for a 1902 Luger carbine that wouldn't function with standard .30 calibre Luger ammo.

It never shot fer sh*t and I ended up trading it for Marine Corp '03 sniper which turned out to be a fake. I traded that for bnz43 low turret mount which also turned out to be a fake, I traded that for a belgian FN/FAL...

And the old lady in the orchard lived happily ever after killing birds with a perfectly good 10-22 with a redfield 4x scope.

glen

Edward Tinker · 05-04-2005, 03:34 PM

Glen, I sent you a Pm about dinner tomorrow night

trigger643 · 05-04-2005, 04:30 PM

ya, Ed. But is it as good as my story about the apple orchard?

Edward Tinker · 05-04-2005, 04:33 PM

not at all, but I want your 1920 carbine that you foolishly traded!

trigger643 · 05-04-2005, 05:17 PM

1902 carbine, Ed. Not a 1920. It had had a peep site installed. cost me about $800.00 to have the evidence removed. I believe I saw Randall B. with this exact carbine about a year ago. The gun had been rebored to some other caliber, I think 8mm Japanese. It was a weird bird. I shot about 5 rounds of 30 luger through it and couldn't get it to function, feed or eject. The widow's husband had been stationed in Japan as part of the occupation in 1946-7 and he brought it home from there.

Edward Tinker · 05-04-2005, 05:24 PM

I have heard that 8mm Japanese was easily available after the war and lugers were chambered for it. Not much proof of that now?

Heck, if anyone has a 8mm or oddball carbine or handgun, tell me about it!

1902, 1920, heck, same thing, since I don't have one!

trigger643 · 05-04-2005, 05:32 PM

Ed, PM sent. I just want another Belgian FN/FAL. Do you suppose Sixpack would trade me for the 1937 2nd variation captured on D-Day +3 that you lust after?

SixPackSuperBee · 05-04-2005, 07:59 PM

Well, at least you ended up with a mighty fine rifle, Trigger. I have to apologize though, the FN is still not for sale. Thats what I bought all those guns for.....it was a package deal....all or nothing. The .45 sold two weeks ago, I gave the L.A.R. to a very dear friend and now Im considering letting the Luger go.

trigger643 · 05-04-2005, 09:14 PM

dang. I only wanted the FN/FAL or the .45. At least I'll get a meal from Ed

l10 · 05-04-2005, 11:02 PM

It was a good weekend for garage/estate sales, I was given a like deal on 6 items this weekend by a neighbor's daughter cleaning out the estate. She lives out of town and the house is sold. Again a lady who just wanted them gone. She said she and her husband were even thinking of turning them in to the police to have them destroyed. The deal was too good, later I felt bad about it. I went back and tried to pay her more but she refuses any further payment on them.
Lucky find as there were no signs about them being for sale at the estate sale, which was actually two weeks ago. At the sale I bought a three drawer tool box. When I got home I found an envelope in the back of one of the drawers with some receipts. I figured nothing to lose by asking about them. It took a couple of weeks to get together but it all worked out.

Edward Tinker · 05-04-2005, 11:40 PM

cool, what'd ya get?

And Glen, Terry says I have to let you get a salad too

l10 · 05-04-2005, 11:59 PM

Well the only thing that applies to the forum is a P38, my first. It is in excellent conditon. It is a Byf44 duo tone. (I am learning this as I go.) The other ones were all pretty nice or NIB. Got a couple of reproductions that I would not normally buy but which I now really like, A Navy Arms 1803 Harper's Ferry that's new and an engraved 1873 Springfield with tang sight, and checkered stock also in new condition.

05-04-2005, 03:08 AM	#1
SixPackSuperBee User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Some info please. Hello all. I just recently purchased a Luger from a lady whose husband had passed away and she didnt want it in the house anymore since she knew nothing of firearms. Actually I bought several firearms from her and included in the sale was a 1916 DWM luger in what looks to me like alomost new condition. Her husbands older brother supposedly got it during WW2. It has not been reblued and the finish is practically flawless....no scratches, pits or wear on the finish. I have never owned a Luger and dont know a lot about them but I do know that it is a numbers matching pistol since all the part numbers are the same. Included in the sale was a Remington-Rand .45 ACP 1911, an L.A.R. Grizzly .50 AE, an import Belgian made FN-FAL in 7.62x51 and the Luger. I got all this for the price of $550.00. I know I made a good deal and even told the lady that the guns were worth more than that but she just didnt want them around the house. Could anyone teel me an approximate value of the Luger or how I can find out more about the pistol? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

05-04-2005, 10:12 AM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,309 Times in 1,098 Posts	Yes please post the photos... The Remington-Rand .45 in respectable shape is probably worth in the neighborhood of $1000 USD __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

05-04-2005, 11:16 AM	#5
trigger643 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Murfreesboro Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	how many times has this forum been approached by these attic stories? just curious. I hope sixpack at least gave the old lady a good night kiss. I am most interested in the FN/FAL, if it is truly Belgian it needs a good home, say in Colorado __________________ "There are three reasons to own a gun: To protect yourself and your family, to hunt dangerous and delicious animals, and to keep the King of England out of your face." Ã¢?? Krusty the Clown

05-04-2005, 11:21 AM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,974 Thanks: 2,072 Thanked 4,608 Times in 2,123 Posts	between you and me, we can give all of them a nice Colorado home Glen __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-04-2005, 02:29 PM	#9
trigger643 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Murfreesboro Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Sixpack, let me tell you a story... A guy is driving home from a sales call. He's just outside Yakima, Washington. He sees a grey haired old lady out in an apple orchard from the interstate. She's shooting something and it's giving her problems. He can't believe it, so he stops. It can't be what he thinks it is. but, it is. He talks with her for a moment. Then Trades a Ruger 10-22 with a scope for this bothersome weapon. That was me. 1989. I traded a fine ruger 10-22 for a 1902 Luger carbine that wouldn't function with standard .30 calibre Luger ammo. It never shot fer sh*t and I ended up trading it for Marine Corp '03 sniper which turned out to be a fake. I traded that for bnz43 low turret mount which also turned out to be a fake, I traded that for a belgian FN/FAL... And the old lady in the orchard lived happily ever after killing birds with a perfectly good 10-22 with a redfield 4x scope. glen __________________ "There are three reasons to own a gun: To protect yourself and your family, to hunt dangerous and delicious animals, and to keep the King of England out of your face." Ã¢?? Krusty the Clown

05-04-2005, 03:39 AM	#2
pipeman45 User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	If you could post some pictures of the pistol it would help set the value. Please take close-up shots of all sides and any markings. And please as a favor to an old 1911 fan, include some shots of the Remington.

05-04-2005, 12:08 PM	#7
sumoj275 User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The FAL alone is anywhere in the neighborhood of 1400-2200. Man, I wish I could luck into that deal :^)

05-04-2005, 12:27 PM	#8
SixPackSuperBee User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I will try to post some photos a.s.a.p. Sounds kinda like Trigger thinks its just a "story" to be polite. Why would I make it up? Kinda silly dont you think? Anyway, the lady I made the purchase with got a bit more than $550.00 from me actually, I own a lawn service and landscape company (this is how I met her) and I agreed to mow her lawn this summer for half price. About 1,500.00 dollars in labor but she is a great customer. Pics coming when I can (no scanner of my own) and the FN is NOT for sale....sorry.

05-04-2005, 03:34 PM	#10
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,974 Thanks: 2,072 Thanked 4,608 Times in 2,123 Posts	Glen, I sent you a Pm about dinner tomorrow night __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-04-2005, 04:30 PM	#11
trigger643 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Murfreesboro Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	ya, Ed. But is it as good as my story about the apple orchard? __________________ "There are three reasons to own a gun: To protect yourself and your family, to hunt dangerous and delicious animals, and to keep the King of England out of your face." Ã¢?? Krusty the Clown

05-04-2005, 04:33 PM	#12
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,974 Thanks: 2,072 Thanked 4,608 Times in 2,123 Posts	not at all, but I want your 1920 carbine that you foolishly traded! __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-04-2005, 05:17 PM	#13
trigger643 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Murfreesboro Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	1902 carbine, Ed. Not a 1920. It had had a peep site installed. cost me about $800.00 to have the evidence removed. I believe I saw Randall B. with this exact carbine about a year ago. The gun had been rebored to some other caliber, I think 8mm Japanese. It was a weird bird. I shot about 5 rounds of 30 luger through it and couldn't get it to function, feed or eject. The widow's husband had been stationed in Japan as part of the occupation in 1946-7 and he brought it home from there. __________________ "There are three reasons to own a gun: To protect yourself and your family, to hunt dangerous and delicious animals, and to keep the King of England out of your face." Ã¢?? Krusty the Clown

05-04-2005, 05:24 PM	#14
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,974 Thanks: 2,072 Thanked 4,608 Times in 2,123 Posts	I have heard that 8mm Japanese was easily available after the war and lugers were chambered for it. Not much proof of that now? Heck, if anyone has a 8mm or oddball carbine or handgun, tell me about it! 1902, 1920, heck, same thing, since I don't have one!

05-04-2005, 05:32 PM	#15
trigger643 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Murfreesboro Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Ed, PM sent. I just want another Belgian FN/FAL. Do you suppose Sixpack would trade me for the 1937 2nd variation captured on D-Day +3 that you lust after? __________________ "There are three reasons to own a gun: To protect yourself and your family, to hunt dangerous and delicious animals, and to keep the King of England out of your face." Ã¢?? Krusty the Clown

05-04-2005, 07:59 PM	#16
SixPackSuperBee User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, at least you ended up with a mighty fine rifle, Trigger. I have to apologize though, the FN is still not for sale. Thats what I bought all those guns for.....it was a package deal....all or nothing. The .45 sold two weeks ago, I gave the L.A.R. to a very dear friend and now Im considering letting the Luger go.

05-04-2005, 09:14 PM	#17
trigger643 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Murfreesboro Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	dang. I only wanted the FN/FAL or the .45. At least I'll get a meal from Ed __________________ "There are three reasons to own a gun: To protect yourself and your family, to hunt dangerous and delicious animals, and to keep the King of England out of your face." Ã¢?? Krusty the Clown

05-04-2005, 11:02 PM	#18
l10 User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It was a good weekend for garage/estate sales, I was given a like deal on 6 items this weekend by a neighbor's daughter cleaning out the estate. She lives out of town and the house is sold. Again a lady who just wanted them gone. She said she and her husband were even thinking of turning them in to the police to have them destroyed. The deal was too good, later I felt bad about it. I went back and tried to pay her more but she refuses any further payment on them. Lucky find as there were no signs about them being for sale at the estate sale, which was actually two weeks ago. At the sale I bought a three drawer tool box. When I got home I found an envelope in the back of one of the drawers with some receipts. I figured nothing to lose by asking about them. It took a couple of weeks to get together but it all worked out.

05-04-2005, 11:40 PM	#19
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,974 Thanks: 2,072 Thanked 4,608 Times in 2,123 Posts	cool, what'd ya get? And Glen, Terry says I have to let you get a salad too __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-04-2005, 11:59 PM	#20
l10 User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well the only thing that applies to the forum is a P38, my first. It is in excellent conditon. It is a Byf44 duo tone. (I am learning this as I go.) The other ones were all pretty nice or NIB. Got a couple of reproductions that I would not normally buy but which I now really like, A Navy Arms 1803 Harper's Ferry that's new and an engraved 1873 Springfield with tang sight, and checkered stock also in new condition.