Holster Identity.....?

[stevezz1]

Hello all,
Could someone please identify this holster for me.
It belongs to an aquantance on another forum and this is the only photo i have.
I thought maybe it was from the Spanish Civil Guard, but he says it is not.

Many thanks.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Steve.

[RockinWR]

Steve,
* 1st variation Police Holster.
* Probably made in the mid to late 20's ie; Weimar era.
* Any markings or dates impressed/ink stamped on this example?
Respectfully,
Bob

[Ron Smith]

Steve, It is a police luger holster. I think Bob forgot to add this. Otherwise, he's the man.

Ron

[stevezz1]

Ron and Bob,
Many thanks for your help.......

The amount of freely given help never ceases to supprise me.

Thanks again.
Steve.

[Edward Tinker]

its for the German National Guard of the Willobees.




Okay, its just like Bob said, 1st variation Police Holster, I have seen them go from $75-$175, depending on inside condition, stampings on rear etc.


eD

[stevezz1]

Hi Guys,
Many thanks for your replies, but now i am confused.
The owner has revealed the pedigree of this holster.
Please take a look here.....
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...265#post873265

All the best,
Steve.

[Ron Smith]

Steve,
It may have a Luftwaffe stamp, but I would bet the farm that it started life as a police holster. The up-strap is the give away. It could have been conscipted and issued to the Luftwaffe at a later date. If the stamp is genuine. Purely my own opinion.

Ron

[Ron Smith]

I just looked again. He is showing two entirely different holsters. Which one is he saying is Luftwaffe marked?

[RockinWR]

Stephan,
* I wouldn't take strike three in the referenced guessing thread without taking a full swing.

* Matt Quote:
"Sorry it's not a police holster either Steve. But that is a common belief umong these."
- A common belief because this holster was originally intended as a Police style holster.
- How it was re-issued does not preclude the specification style under which it was constructed.

* Jan Still, Weimar & Early Nazi Lugers, Pg.159 states the characteristics of an early(Weimar) era police holster as:
- "Most early Weimar police holsters are undated and lack the manufacturer's name."
- "Top flap with a brass stud secured by a strap closure secured to the front body of the holster. ...The earliest holster lacks a loop on the flap to help secure the closure strap and the closure straps are tear shaped at the top."
- "All those dated after 1927 have this securing loop."
- A world recognized collector of P.08 holsters offers his early police rig examples on pg. 113 (Fig. 32c) & Pg.116(Fig. 33c). Most holsters of this style came as Weimar Police rigs.
- The Luft did not exist until about the mid 1930's.

*Bob quote:
" Any markings or dates impressed/ink stamped on this example?"
- Nothing like having half the story!
- As Matt found a Krieghoff rework in this PT.08 and if this holster bears a genuine E/2 acceptance, it is highly likely the holster was once in the Luft inventory. So Matt is correct in saying it is a Luft example; but, cannot definitively say it was not a police holster.

* I believe Ron has the answer:
Ron Quote:
"It may have a Luftwaffe stamp, but I would bet the farm that it started life as a police holster. The up-strap is the give away. It could have been conscipted and issued to the Luftwaffe at a later date. If the stamp is genuine."

Respectfully,
Bob

[Edward Tinker]

If it has a luft marking, that is fine, but I know of no specific holsters made for the luftwaffe that was issued holster(s) such as this...

Ed

[stevezz1]

Many thanks for all your input guys, but i seem to have created rather a lot of confusion........Sorry about that.....
The link i posted to the holster showed two diferent holsters, a Luftwaffe issue and the one i am inquiring about.

The one i had three guesses at has no marks on the back, and i bow to your collective knowledge that it is indeed a police issue holster.

Again, many thanks for your help....

Steve.

[Edward Tinker]

As long as you are talking about the one "pictured" above, well, unless the luftwaffe bought items being issued to the police, it is a police "style".

Ed