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04-18-2001, 02:41 PM

At the suggestions of both John Sabato and Johnny Peppers, I am listing here all of the know information (other than what John has posted from our firearms collection catalogue) that was taken from Mr. Norton's handwritten notes:

"Crown over N proof mark on underside of barrel and on left side of receiver. No other markings. Blue with finely checkered wooden grips. Wooden butt piece on magazine. Weight: 36-1/2 oz. with 7-shot magazine. NOTE: Do not remove mainspring, for a special jig is required for its reinstallation. Purchased from Harry E. Jones, Torrance, Calif. in 1960."

John Sabato · 04-18-2001, 03:59 PM

Johnny Peppers · 04-18-2001, 04:49 PM

Of the two .45 Cal Lugers furnished to Springfield Armory while negotiations for the purchase of a total of 200 to meet the requirements of a field test, only one is known to have survived intact and is in excellent condition. This pistol remained in Springfield Armory until purchased by Sidney Aberman of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The pistol had apparently been purchased by an unnamed collector or investor around 1994 or 1995, and supposedly has again been sold once again to a collector/dealer.

One only has to look at the number of contracts that DWM had to fulfill in the 1906 timeframe to understand why they did not want to tool up for a pistol of completely different dimension. The correspondence between Hans Tauscher of DWM and General Crozier of Springfield Armory makes for very interesting reading. The negotiated price of the .45 Cal. Lugers was to be $48.75 each with 100,000 rounds of .45ACP ammunition furnished at a cost of $20.00 per thousand.

Dok · 04-21-2001, 09:26 PM

I will definitely update the information I have on the .45 cal Luger in the Generla Info section with this new info.

Dok

04-18-2001, 12:49 PM	#1
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	.45 caliber Luger information provided by the Norton Gallery Would anyone on the forum know for sure where the only other .45 caliber Luger that is known to exist is today? Johnny Peppers told me in a private email that he believes that it is in the private collection of a Mr. Ellis, but he did not have any other information. I believe that the infomation in the Norton Gallery Catalog stating that .45 caliber Luger serial #2 is in a private collection in the Pittsburgh PA area is no longer valid. To see photos of the modern reproduction of this amazing pistol by Krausewerk.com visit these links: http://www.krausewerke.com/return_45_luger.html http://hoganarms.com/img/luger1.jpg http://hoganarms.com/img/luger2.jpg http://krausewerke.homestead.com/files/_2_45_LUGER_G_M.jpg -John http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/1906-45Cal.jpg

04-18-2001, 02:41 PM	#2
Jerry Bloomer Guest Posts: n/a	Re: .45 caliber Luger information provided by the Norton Gallery At the suggestions of both John Sabato and Johnny Peppers, I am listing here all of the know information (other than what John has posted from our firearms collection catalogue) that was taken from Mr. Norton's handwritten notes: "Crown over N proof mark on underside of barrel and on left side of receiver. No other markings. Blue with finely checkered wooden grips. Wooden butt piece on magazine. Weight: 36-1/2 oz. with 7-shot magazine. NOTE: Do not remove mainspring, for a special jig is required for its reinstallation. Purchased from Harry E. Jones, Torrance, Calif. in 1960."

04-18-2001, 03:59 PM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Thank you Jerry for the update... (EOM)

04-18-2001, 04:49 PM	#4
Johnny Peppers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calion, Arkansas Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: .45 caliber Luger information provided by the Norton Gallery Of the two .45 Cal Lugers furnished to Springfield Armory while negotiations for the purchase of a total of 200 to meet the requirements of a field test, only one is known to have survived intact and is in excellent condition. This pistol remained in Springfield Armory until purchased by Sidney Aberman of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The pistol had apparently been purchased by an unnamed collector or investor around 1994 or 1995, and supposedly has again been sold once again to a collector/dealer. One only has to look at the number of contracts that DWM had to fulfill in the 1906 timeframe to understand why they did not want to tool up for a pistol of completely different dimension. The correspondence between Hans Tauscher of DWM and General Crozier of Springfield Armory makes for very interesting reading. The negotiated price of the .45 Cal. Lugers was to be $48.75 each with 100,000 rounds of .45ACP ammunition furnished at a cost of $20.00 per thousand.

04-21-2001, 09:26 PM	#5
Dok RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bermuda (Eat Your Heart Out) Posts: 1,626 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: .45 caliber Luger information provided by the Norton Gallery I will definitely update the information I have on the .45 cal Luger in the Generla Info section with this new info. Dok