loading problem

gelotti · 04-01-2010, 02:11 AM

I tested a luger with two rounds in the magazine.The first round is no problem to fire but the weapon is not reloading and stays open with a round in the magazine.When I do the cycle manually there is never a problem.Is there a problem with the "hold open" or can somebody explain this problem.
Thanks

John Sabato · 04-01-2010, 10:41 AM

Your holdopen may be kept from doing its job properly by swollen wood on the inside of the grip. The holdopen is operated by the magazine button pushing up under holdopen. See if this problem happens if you fire the gun with the right grip removed...

Another problem you may have is weak ammunition. You did not mention the caliber, but if it is 7.65 Luger (.30 Luger) much of this ammo is intentionally underpowered because it may be used in guns not designed for modern ammunition. It could also be that the main recoil spring may not be the proper one for your Luger and may be too strong...

You magazine may also not be a good fit for your Luger. Many Lugers are magazine finicky... try a different one.

I hope this has been helpful... Welcome to the Lugerforum.

Sieger · 04-01-2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gelotti

I tested a luger with two rounds in the magazine.The first round is no problem to fire but the weapon is not reloading and stays open with a round in the magazine.When I do the cycle manually there is never a problem.Is there a problem with the "hold open" or can somebody explain this problem.
Thanks

Hi:

Let me restate, your toggle stays fully open with the second round fully in the magazine.

If this is the case, it sounds like your "hold open spring" is weak and your hold open is activating under the recoil of your first round.

Contact Luger Doc for a replacement spring and assistance in understanding your problem further.

Sieger

gelotti · 04-05-2010, 01:55 AM

Thanks for the advice.
I have inspected the hold open and it seems normal.I did the test with 5 rounds in the magazine and the reloading cycle is OK.

Lugerdoc · 04-05-2010, 12:33 PM

Sounds like that particular mag is allowing the follower button to activate HO, with one round still in the mag. Should be OK with new in spec mags. TH

04-01-2010, 02:11 AM	#1
gelotti User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	loading problem I tested a luger with two rounds in the magazine.The first round is no problem to fire but the weapon is not reloading and stays open with a round in the magazine.When I do the cycle manually there is never a problem.Is there a problem with the "hold open" or can somebody explain this problem. Thanks

04-01-2010, 10:41 AM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Your holdopen may be kept from doing its job properly by swollen wood on the inside of the grip. The holdopen is operated by the magazine button pushing up under holdopen. See if this problem happens if you fire the gun with the right grip removed... Another problem you may have is weak ammunition. You did not mention the caliber, but if it is 7.65 Luger (.30 Luger) much of this ammo is intentionally underpowered because it may be used in guns not designed for modern ammunition. It could also be that the main recoil spring may not be the proper one for your Luger and may be too strong... You magazine may also not be a good fit for your Luger. Many Lugers are magazine finicky... try a different one. I hope this has been helpful... Welcome to the Lugerforum. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-05-2010, 12:33 PM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Sounds like that particular mag is allowing the follower button to activate HO, with one round still in the mag. Should be OK with new in spec mags. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

04-05-2010, 01:55 AM	#4
gelotti User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the advice. I have inspected the hold open and it seems normal.I did the test with 5 rounds in the magazine and the reloading cycle is OK.