P.08 Luger

blivit · 02-03-2009, 07:19 PM

I have a Luger as far as I have been able to learn was brought from Germany in 1943, which it is alleged my Dad bought for $35.

The grips were faded and chipped and to my regret he replaced with some white plastic grips available in the 1950's. Now they had shrunk and warped.

The pistol is original with the same serial number on all parts. The whole serial number is 5397.

Can anyone out there steer me to a source for some decent replacement grips. I know all this devalues the gun. But I have shot it and would like for it to be passed on in better shape.

Blivit

revolverforums · 02-03-2009, 07:31 PM

Do a search on the forum, I saw one member advertising replacement grips that looked good. Anything but the originals effect value IMHO but it all depends on what you want the gun for. By the way it appears to be in excellent shape otherwise so it looks like you have a real winner. Some of the others can probably tell you for sure but I don't know if those BYF's ever had the grips marked to the gun anyway.

alvin · 02-03-2009, 08:36 PM

I'm lost. From the description, this gun was bought by your Dad in Germany as an officer's sidearm. I assume he came to the States post WWII and the pistol came with him? How?

blivit · 02-03-2009, 08:54 PM

My Dad bought this from a Man who had picked it up while visiting Germany. He showed it to my Dad and Dad just had to have it much to my Mother's chagrin.

Edward Tinker · 02-03-2009, 09:59 PM

There were ways to bring guns back in the 1950's and even up to now. A GI stationed there could buy, register it and bring it back. There were times where lugers could be bought at the Rod and Gun club (I did not have any where I was stationed).

So, point is, lots of ways to have guns brought back. :0

A new set of grips or old ones in wood or black plastic plus an FXO magazine could be purchased fairly easily and put it back to normal.

Ed

Sieger · 02-03-2009, 11:54 PM

[QUOTE Can anyone out there steer me to a source for some decent replacement grips. I know all this devalues the gun. But I have shot it and would like for it to be passed on in better shape.

Blivit[/QUOTE]

It looks like the Luger was dolled-up a bit by the GI that sold it to your Dad, as the magazine isn't original to a byf either. Also, is the pistol still blued or is it in the white or chromed?

Anyway, for an excellent set of walnut German made (current production) grips, google a firm named NIL Grips. They are in Germany, but I've bought several sets from them. They aint cheap, but they are of high quality and are perfect replacement grips for a Luger pistol!!

Sieger

blivit · 02-04-2009, 08:23 AM

I'll Google NIL grips and see what comes up! Thanks. It has the original factory blue but has worn spots where it was carried in a holster. May have seen lots of action.

Again for some reason Dad thought the grips need replacing as well as the end of the magazine. He went cheap and according to his friend who told how Dad got the pistol said he got those horrid Franzite grips back in 1950.

Dad died in 1959 and I was lucky to get the information on where he got the Luger. The information came from a friend of Dad's who kept a journal throughout his life and had written about it. The man who brought it from Germany, I have no information on.

John Sabato · 02-04-2009, 11:41 AM

Brownell's sells their "vintage" grip line which includes black plastic grips which closely resemble the original bakelite grips on this byf41.

Lugerdoc · 02-05-2009, 10:33 AM

Bllvit, I agree with John S. above, that the black plastic repro grips would be more appropriate for your 41 BYF, than a repro wood set. I have either type (not the NIL quality) available @$25/set + $6 S&H. hellerarms@webtv.net

Ingvarg · 02-05-2009, 12:01 PM

http://www.nill-griffe.com/

Here you go ! You will find Luger grips under "Mauser"

Steinar · 02-06-2009, 03:20 AM

Bllvit;
I have a pair of original bakelite grips I can part with for 165$ + shipping. If interested you can send me a PM with you email address, so that I can send you further details.

John Sabato · 02-06-2009, 09:59 AM

Wow Steinar! Only $165.00 !!! That's a bargain in today's market... You are a heck of a nice guy! ( and I am not being fecetious either!) A decent set of grips could easily reach $250-300 depending on how badly the buyer wants them...

Steinar · 02-06-2009, 03:29 PM

Thanks John, you not all bad yourself

I don't think they are worth any more.. They are not rare enough to justify these insane prices we see every now and then.

Blivit; is there a suffix under your serial number?

Steinar · 02-08-2009, 04:37 AM

blivit; if nothing heard within the next 24h, I'll take it that you are not of interested and they will go to someone else.

Silvereagle29 · 02-13-2009, 11:00 PM

Hi

I believe the letter suffix along with the serial number would help determine which grips are correct for the 41-byf. For example, if the pistol were in the - w - block wood SE-655 grips would work. If the pistol was in the no suffix a or b blocks SE-135 would fit. If the pistol were assembled after June of 1941 either black plastic or wood would be correct. Good luck.

blivit · 03-16-2009, 04:39 PM

Sorry Guys. Due to loss of job this has to take the back burner for a while. Thanks for all the help!

Lugerdoc · 03-17-2009, 09:55 AM

B, For future reference, I can supply you with both the new repro black widow grips @$25 and the FXO/BP mag bottom (perfer copy @$35 or not so perfect @$25) + $6 S&H. hellerarms@webtv.net

02-03-2009, 07:19 PM	#1
blivit New User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P.08 Luger I have a Luger as far as I have been able to learn was brought from Germany in 1943, which it is alleged my Dad bought for $35. The grips were faded and chipped and to my regret he replaced with some white plastic grips available in the 1950's. Now they had shrunk and warped. The pistol is original with the same serial number on all parts. The whole serial number is 5397. Can anyone out there steer me to a source for some decent replacement grips. I know all this devalues the gun. But I have shot it and would like for it to be passed on in better shape. Blivit Attached Thumbnails

02-03-2009, 08:54 PM	#4
blivit New User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Maybe I wasn't clear My Dad bought this from a Man who had picked it up while visiting Germany. He showed it to my Dad and Dad just had to have it much to my Mother's chagrin.

02-03-2009, 09:59 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	There were ways to bring guns back in the 1950's and even up to now. A GI stationed there could buy, register it and bring it back. There were times where lugers could be bought at the Rod and Gun club (I did not have any where I was stationed). So, point is, lots of ways to have guns brought back. :0 A new set of grips or old ones in wood or black plastic plus an FXO magazine could be purchased fairly easily and put it back to normal. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-03-2009, 11:54 PM	#6
Sieger User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,579 Thanks: 2,144 Thanked 402 Times in 251 Posts	Excellent Luger Wood Grips [QUOTE Can anyone out there steer me to a source for some decent replacement grips. I know all this devalues the gun. But I have shot it and would like for it to be passed on in better shape. Blivit[/QUOTE] It looks like the Luger was dolled-up a bit by the GI that sold it to your Dad, as the magazine isn't original to a byf either. Also, is the pistol still blued or is it in the white or chromed? Anyway, for an excellent set of walnut German made (current production) grips, google a firm named NIL Grips. They are in Germany, but I've bought several sets from them. They aint cheap, but they are of high quality and are perfect replacement grips for a Luger pistol!! Sieger

02-04-2009, 08:23 AM	#7
blivit New User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Grips I'll Google NIL grips and see what comes up! Thanks. It has the original factory blue but has worn spots where it was carried in a holster. May have seen lots of action. Again for some reason Dad thought the grips need replacing as well as the end of the magazine. He went cheap and according to his friend who told how Dad got the pistol said he got those horrid Franzite grips back in 1950. Dad died in 1959 and I was lucky to get the information on where he got the Luger. The information came from a friend of Dad's who kept a journal throughout his life and had written about it. The man who brought it from Germany, I have no information on.

02-03-2009, 07:31 PM	#2
revolverforums Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Do a search on the forum, I saw one member advertising replacement grips that looked good. Anything but the originals effect value IMHO but it all depends on what you want the gun for. By the way it appears to be in excellent shape otherwise so it looks like you have a real winner. Some of the others can probably tell you for sure but I don't know if those BYF's ever had the grips marked to the gun anyway.

02-03-2009, 08:36 PM	#3
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	I'm lost. From the description, this gun was bought by your Dad in Germany as an officer's sidearm. I assume he came to the States post WWII and the pistol came with him? How?

02-04-2009, 11:41 AM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Brownell's sells their "vintage" grip line which includes black plastic grips which closely resemble the original bakelite grips on this byf41. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-05-2009, 10:33 AM	#9
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Bllvit, I agree with John S. above, that the black plastic repro grips would be more appropriate for your 41 BYF, than a repro wood set. I have either type (not the NIL quality) available @$25/set + $6 S&H. hellerarms@webtv.net __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

02-05-2009, 12:01 PM	#10
Ingvarg User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Iceland Posts: 103 Thanks: 9 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	http://www.nill-griffe.com/ Here you go ! You will find Luger grips under "Mauser" __________________ Regards: Ingvar

02-06-2009, 03:20 AM	#11
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	Bllvit; I have a pair of original bakelite grips I can part with for 165$ + shipping. If interested you can send me a PM with you email address, so that I can send you further details. __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

02-06-2009, 09:59 AM	#12
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Wow Steinar! Only $165.00 !!! That's a bargain in today's market... You are a heck of a nice guy! ( and I am not being fecetious either!) A decent set of grips could easily reach $250-300 depending on how badly the buyer wants them... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-06-2009, 03:29 PM	#13
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	Thanks John, you not all bad yourself I don't think they are worth any more.. They are not rare enough to justify these insane prices we see every now and then. Blivit; is there a suffix under your serial number? __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

02-08-2009, 04:37 AM	#14
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	blivit; if nothing heard within the next 24h, I'll take it that you are not of interested and they will go to someone else. __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

02-13-2009, 11:00 PM	#15
Silvereagle29 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 105 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Hi I believe the letter suffix along with the serial number would help determine which grips are correct for the 41-byf. For example, if the pistol were in the - w - block wood SE-655 grips would work. If the pistol was in the no suffix a or b blocks SE-135 would fit. If the pistol were assembled after June of 1941 either black plastic or wood would be correct. Good luck.

03-16-2009, 04:39 PM	#16
blivit New User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Sorry Guys. Due to loss of job this has to take the back burner for a while. Thanks for all the help!

03-17-2009, 09:55 AM	#17
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	B, For future reference, I can supply you with both the new repro black widow grips @$25 and the FXO/BP mag bottom (perfer copy @$35 or not so perfect @$25) + $6 S&H. hellerarms@webtv.net __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

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