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Robert Wiggins · 06-03-2001, 11:47 AM

Folks;

I definitely need some help with "Step 12" of the disassembly instructions in our Tech Info section.

It states "12. With a fine screwdriver push the Trigger Bar Spring". Seems simple but I can't see how to push it in any direction since the trigger bar end rests under the spring and has a high stepped edge that would prevent sliding over the bar without first somehow lifting it up.

Please!!! need more detailed advise on the spring removal, as I don't want to risk breakage. I know we have some experts here who have done this many times.

Regards to all

John D. · 06-03-2001, 12:14 PM

Hi Robert....

FIRST - cover the side of the reciever (spring side) with a few layers of masking tape (in case the screwdriver slips!!!). Next a small jewelers screwdriver will fit under the "lip" of that spring.

Lift the leading edge of that spring enough to clear the detent in the bar...

Then push it forward (this is when the screwdriver typically SLIPS - scratching the reciever and poking a bloody hole in the palm of your other hand that is holding the reciever - so BE CAREFUL )

It will slide forward in the groves and release... From there - you can proceed to step 13....

Thor · 06-03-2001, 12:25 PM

You hook a small screw driver under the turned up edge of the sear spring and push it forward toward the muzzle while gentley lifting the edge with the screw driver to clear the sear bar. They slide right out! ~Thor~

John D. · 06-03-2001, 12:34 PM

Thor wrote: "They slide right out!"....

Sure - unles they are stuck In which case - "..the screwdriver typically SLIPS - scratching the reciever and poking a bloody hole in the palm of your other hand that is holding the reciever...."...

OH - then you gotta be sure your tetnus shots are up to date - if not, it's off to the "emergency room" we go.....

BILL · 06-03-2001, 12:50 PM

John, You paint a graphically realistic scenario. How bad does that spring REALLY need to come out?

John D. · 06-03-2001, 12:57 PM

some of those danged springs that are "more stubborn then a mule on holiday"...

Oh - the reason that I can describe this stage in disassembly in such graphic detail?? "The incidents you have just read about are true - the names have been changed to protect...". Hey - did you know a tetnus shot lasts for up to 8 years? I didn't know that either 'till the nurse told me....!!!

Robert Wiggins · 06-03-2001, 01:00 PM

Folks;

You've painted the pros and cons quite graphically. The instructions certainly clear up the process for me where the disassembly instructions fell short.

I appreciate the instructions and will take all the necessary precautions.

Thanks again.

Robert Wiggins · 06-03-2001, 01:16 PM

AH HA! I've done it!!!

NO, I didn't put the screw driver through my hand!

Did as suggested, with a little modification of my own.

Lifted the leading adge of the spring to clear the detent of the bar; slipped a fine jewelers screwdriver under the lip of the spring resting between the bar and the spring; Then placed a similar screwdriver against the leading edge of the spring and slid it out of the groove no problem. It was very easy....in this particular case.

Thanks again folks, god this site is better than a book!

BILL · 06-03-2001, 01:53 PM

There are some really sharp edges and some physically demanding procedures associated with the assembly and disassembly of almost all firearms. I have seen blood in many instances and often it was for no better reason than I just wanted to take that one little part out (just to see how it goes back in). Usually the first thing I do when I get a new acquisition is disassemble it. I used to 'really' take it apart but now field stripping usually satisfies my obsession. (I had a tetanus shot two years ago..good for a few more puncture wounds).

06-03-2001, 11:47 AM	#1
Robert Wiggins User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 142 Thanks: 16 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P08 Disassembly Problem Folks; I definitely need some help with "Step 12" of the disassembly instructions in our Tech Info section. It states "12. With a fine screwdriver push the Trigger Bar Spring". Seems simple but I can't see how to push it in any direction since the trigger bar end rests under the spring and has a high stepped edge that would prevent sliding over the bar without first somehow lifting it up. Please!!! need more detailed advise on the spring removal, as I don't want to risk breakage. I know we have some experts here who have done this many times. Regards to all

06-03-2001, 12:14 PM	#2
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Re: P08 Disassembly Problem Hi Robert.... FIRST - cover the side of the reciever (spring side) with a few layers of masking tape (in case the screwdriver slips!!!). Next a small jewelers screwdriver will fit under the "lip" of that spring. Lift the leading edge of that spring enough to clear the detent in the bar... Then push it forward (this is when the screwdriver typically SLIPS - scratching the reciever and poking a bloody hole in the palm of your other hand that is holding the reciever - so BE CAREFUL ) It will slide forward in the groves and release... From there - you can proceed to step 13....

06-03-2001, 12:25 PM	#3
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: P08 Disassembly Problem You hook a small screw driver under the turned up edge of the sear spring and push it forward toward the muzzle while gentley lifting the edge with the screw driver to clear the sear bar. They slide right out! ~Thor~

06-03-2001, 12:34 PM	#4
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Re: P08 Disassembly Problem Thor wrote: "They slide right out!".... Sure - unles they are stuck In which case - "..the screwdriver typically SLIPS - scratching the reciever and poking a bloody hole in the palm of your other hand that is holding the reciever...."... OH - then you gotta be sure your tetnus shots are up to date - if not, it's off to the "emergency room" we go.....

06-03-2001, 12:50 PM	#5
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: P08 Disassembly Problem John, You paint a graphically realistic scenario. How bad does that spring REALLY need to come out?

06-03-2001, 12:57 PM	#6
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Hi Bill - There are.... some of those danged springs that are "more stubborn then a mule on holiday"... Oh - the reason that I can describe this stage in disassembly in such graphic detail?? "The incidents you have just read about are true - the names have been changed to protect...". Hey - did you know a tetnus shot lasts for up to 8 years? I didn't know that either 'till the nurse told me....!!!

06-03-2001, 01:00 PM	#7
Robert Wiggins User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 142 Thanks: 16 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Many Thanks Folks; You've painted the pros and cons quite graphically. The instructions certainly clear up the process for me where the disassembly instructions fell short. I appreciate the instructions and will take all the necessary precautions. Thanks again.

06-03-2001, 01:16 PM	#8
Robert Wiggins User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 142 Thanks: 16 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: P08 Disassembly Problem AH HA! I've done it!!! NO, I didn't put the screw driver through my hand! Did as suggested, with a little modification of my own. Lifted the leading adge of the spring to clear the detent of the bar; slipped a fine jewelers screwdriver under the lip of the spring resting between the bar and the spring; Then placed a similar screwdriver against the leading edge of the spring and slid it out of the groove no problem. It was very easy....in this particular case. Thanks again folks, god this site is better than a book!

06-03-2001, 01:53 PM	#9
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Hi Bill - There are.... There are some really sharp edges and some physically demanding procedures associated with the assembly and disassembly of almost all firearms. I have seen blood in many instances and often it was for no better reason than I just wanted to take that one little part out (just to see how it goes back in). Usually the first thing I do when I get a new acquisition is disassemble it. I used to 'really' take it apart but now field stripping usually satisfies my obsession. (I had a tetanus shot two years ago..good for a few more puncture wounds).