Dutch Luger Holster Contact...

Pete Ebbink · 03-25-2004, 01:40 PM

The folks at Simpson's have a Dutch luger holster (type I) for sale if anyone has the need...

Thought folks would enjoy seeing the photos even if not in the market for one :

http://www.simpsonltd.com/OtherItems...1195/M1195.htm

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Edward Tinker · 03-25-2004, 02:51 PM

Ahhhh, found it Pete, was looking for price and such, ;&gt

Ed

http://www.simpsonltd.com/OtherItems...s/holsters.htm

Ron Wood · 03-25-2004, 03:11 PM

Wow! That's a fairly hefty price tag. Didn't realize the Dutch holsters had gotten that high.

Vlim · 03-26-2004, 11:34 AM

Pete,

I have the need, but not for 1,000USD

As I mentioned earlier, the Dutch KNIL luger holsters saw service in tropic climates in the Dutch East Indies. Nothing worse to leather holsters than that.

Besides that, the quality of early Dutch contract holsters was terrible to start with.

the gunman · 03-26-2004, 01:15 PM

WOW kind of knocks your socks off on the price

Pete Ebbink · 03-26-2004, 01:37 PM

Ron,

I saw another Type-I sell for $ 1250.00 about 4 mos. ago...it was, maybe 15% better in condition that the one in my first posting...

I know another fellow that bought a rig just to get a holster (Type-I)...which was misings its cleaning tool pouch. By the time he sold off the Dutch luger...I think he paid $ 900 for the leather.

I am still looking for that elusive Type-II KNIL holster...

These Dutch holster seem to not show up too often and are pricey...but I do not seem them getting any cheaper in my lifetime...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

lugerholsterrepair · 03-26-2004, 02:06 PM

G. van Vlimmeren I noticed your comment on the quality of early Dutch holsters not being very good and was wondering if you could elucidate ?
I have had four of these in my shop for repair in the last year and I would be interested to hear why you have this opinion and the reasons for it.
I have my own thoughts about the quality and construction techniques of this interesting holster and will explain them after I hear yours. If you are kind enough to respond. Interesting subject! Thanks, Jerry Burney

Vlim · 03-28-2004, 07:27 AM

Hi Jerry,

The holsters had a separate base piece, against which the barrel would rest. In the tropics, the leather would expand and the pistol would bump around in the holster, causing wear to the bottom piece and the pistol itself (muzzle end and triggerplate). Note that most troops used horses and mules for transport.

Orders were given to wrap the pistol in cloth, before putting it into the holster! A practical, Dutch solution

There is also a rumor (I've seen no reliable confirmation) that the Portuguese contract holsters were quite good in order to avoid complaints like they had from the Dutch. I'm not exactly sure what these problems were, my guess is that the leather of the early holsters was not up to the moist tropical conditions.

03-25-2004, 01:40 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Dutch Luger Holster Contact... The folks at Simpson's have a Dutch luger holster (type I) for sale if anyone has the need... Thought folks would enjoy seeing the photos even if not in the market for one : http://www.simpsonltd.com/OtherItems...1195/M1195.htm Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	Ahhhh, found it Pete, was looking for price and such, ;&gt Ed http://www.simpsonltd.com/OtherItems...s/holsters.htm __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

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Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	Wow! That's a fairly hefty price tag. Didn't realize the Dutch holsters had gotten that high. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

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lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,866 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	G. van Vlimmeren I noticed your comment on the quality of early Dutch holsters not being very good and was wondering if you could elucidate ? I have had four of these in my shop for repair in the last year and I would be interested to hear why you have this opinion and the reasons for it. I have my own thoughts about the quality and construction techniques of this interesting holster and will explain them after I hear yours. If you are kind enough to respond. Interesting subject! Thanks, Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-26-2004, 11:34 AM	#4
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,047 Thanks: 1,034 Thanked 3,947 Times in 1,198 Posts	Pete, I have the need, but not for 1,000USD As I mentioned earlier, the Dutch KNIL luger holsters saw service in tropic climates in the Dutch East Indies. Nothing worse to leather holsters than that. Besides that, the quality of early Dutch contract holsters was terrible to start with.

03-26-2004, 01:15 PM	#5
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	WOW kind of knocks your socks off on the price

03-26-2004, 01:37 PM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Ron, I saw another Type-I sell for $ 1250.00 about 4 mos. ago...it was, maybe 15% better in condition that the one in my first posting... I know another fellow that bought a rig just to get a holster (Type-I)...which was misings its cleaning tool pouch. By the time he sold off the Dutch luger...I think he paid $ 900 for the leather. I am still looking for that elusive Type-II KNIL holster... These Dutch holster seem to not show up too often and are pricey...but I do not seem them getting any cheaper in my lifetime... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

03-28-2004, 07:27 AM	#8
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,047 Thanks: 1,034 Thanked 3,947 Times in 1,198 Posts	Hi Jerry, The holsters had a separate base piece, against which the barrel would rest. In the tropics, the leather would expand and the pistol would bump around in the holster, causing wear to the bottom piece and the pistol itself (muzzle end and triggerplate). Note that most troops used horses and mules for transport. Orders were given to wrap the pistol in cloth, before putting it into the holster! A practical, Dutch solution There is also a rumor (I've seen no reliable confirmation) that the Portuguese contract holsters were quite good in order to avoid complaints like they had from the Dutch. I'm not exactly sure what these problems were, my guess is that the leather of the early holsters was not up to the moist tropical conditions.