Interesting Artillery Holster Plus

tudorbug · 04-08-2004, 09:10 AM

On eBay at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...237344433&rd=1

Offered from Belarus, formerly part of Russia, if I am recalling correctly. Is it safe to bid on an item from Belarus??

John Sabato · 04-08-2004, 10:27 AM

The holster, IF it is genuine, has been modified, and IMHO it is not genuine but an old reproduction. The cleaning rod handle is incorrect... too large in diameter and too short in length. I believe that we shall start seeing many items coming from this part of the world that will claim to be original equipment, but are actually clever fabrications like the artillery holster mold we saw a few days ago that was offered for hundreds and is not being relisted with starting price of $0.99

Be extremely cautious... Caveat Emptor!

Ron Wood · 04-08-2004, 10:43 AM

I don't claim any expertise in holsters, but IMHO if I bought this piece I would pay for it with a stack of $3 bills.

Edward Tinker · 04-08-2004, 10:55 AM

I think the stitching is too white, compared to the wear on holster.

FWIW; I bought a artillery holster in the early 80's, I would swear it is original, but Jerry says it is not. There are good reproductions out there, that are also old.

Ed

Navy · 04-09-2004, 07:36 PM

Completely, absolutely, 100% bogus.

Tom A.

George Anderson · 04-09-2004, 08:42 PM

Tommy---ditto.

tudorbug · 04-10-2004, 12:27 PM

Apparently, others are concerned about this holster. It is only up to $10.50 with two days remaining.

Ron Wood · 04-10-2004, 12:31 PM

Let's see...that would be 3 Ã?Â½ $3 bills. Sounds about right.

tudorbug · 04-15-2004, 10:18 AM

Looks like it didn't fool many folks. Closed at $51.01 with four bids. Did not break the reserve or come anywhere close to the "Buy it Now" price of $900.

Big Norm · 04-16-2004, 02:58 AM

My brother stopped off in Belarus while traveling from Germany to Lithuania. He made the mistake of getting off of the train to watch them change the wheels on the train to accomodate the Russian rail gage. Some guard came up and put a machine gun in my brothers face and he was quite serious about blowing my brothers head off. We had a girl from APAR who came in from Belarus and she politely said that there are not many tourists going to Belarus. A German APAR girl told us that many women traveling alone through Belarus disappear from the train and are not heard from again. The parents of the APAR girl from Belarus told her not to go back home because there was a danger of a civil war there. I would estimate that this was about three years ago. The next time my brother went to Lithuania from Germany, he took a plane.

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04-08-2004, 09:10 AM	#1
tudorbug Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 40 Times in 29 Posts	Interesting Artillery Holster Plus On eBay at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...237344433&rd=1 Offered from Belarus, formerly part of Russia, if I am recalling correctly. Is it safe to bid on an item from Belarus??

04-08-2004, 10:27 AM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	The holster, IF it is genuine, has been modified, and IMHO it is not genuine but an old reproduction. The cleaning rod handle is incorrect... too large in diameter and too short in length. I believe that we shall start seeing many items coming from this part of the world that will claim to be original equipment, but are actually clever fabrications like the artillery holster mold we saw a few days ago that was offered for hundreds and is not being relisted with starting price of $0.99 Be extremely cautious... Caveat Emptor! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-08-2004, 10:43 AM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	I don't claim any expertise in holsters, but IMHO if I bought this piece I would pay for it with a stack of $3 bills. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

04-08-2004, 10:55 AM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	I think the stitching is too white, compared to the wear on holster. FWIW; I bought a artillery holster in the early 80's, I would swear it is original, but Jerry says it is not. There are good reproductions out there, that are also old. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-10-2004, 12:31 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	Let's see...that would be 3 Ã?Â½ $3 bills. Sounds about right. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

04-09-2004, 07:36 PM	#5
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Completely, absolutely, 100% bogus. Tom A.

04-09-2004, 08:42 PM	#6
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	Tommy---ditto.

04-10-2004, 12:27 PM	#7
tudorbug Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 40 Times in 29 Posts	Apparently, others are concerned about this holster. It is only up to $10.50 with two days remaining.

04-15-2004, 10:18 AM	#9
tudorbug Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 40 Times in 29 Posts	Looks like it didn't fool many folks. Closed at $51.01 with four bids. Did not break the reserve or come anywhere close to the "Buy it Now" price of $900.

04-16-2004, 02:58 AM	#10
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	My brother stopped off in Belarus while traveling from Germany to Lithuania. He made the mistake of getting off of the train to watch them change the wheels on the train to accomodate the Russian rail gage. Some guard came up and put a machine gun in my brothers face and he was quite serious about blowing my brothers head off. We had a girl from APAR who came in from Belarus and she politely said that there are not many tourists going to Belarus. A German APAR girl told us that many women traveling alone through Belarus disappear from the train and are not heard from again. The parents of the APAR girl from Belarus told her not to go back home because there was a danger of a civil war there. I would estimate that this was about three years ago. The next time my brother went to Lithuania from Germany, he took a plane. Big Norm <img border="0" alt="[icon107]" title="" src="graemlins/icon107.gif" />