Odd cleaning tool.

Lugers down under · 05-19-2003, 05:12 AM

I purchased this cleaning tool at a gun auction last weekend and ask if any one can identify it please. The oil bottle has a screw on cap with a tapered flat spoon fitted inside. on the opposite end of the oil bottle the Mauser banner is clearly stamped.
The shaft is brass and the turned groves on the end of the brass shaft are fine, much like the late model Mauser cleaning rods that do not have an oil bottle attached.

Can anyone help please

Lugerdoc · 05-19-2003, 09:10 AM

Murry, The Mauser marked oiler type rod shown above in your photos was issued with one of the 1970's Mauser commeratives. I've forgotten which one at the moment, but perhaps F. Allen will advise. TH

ken d · 05-19-2003, 07:38 PM

Murry/Tom

I have a "cased" Mauser 06/73 Cartridge Counter that has the same cleaning rod.

Regards

Ken D

Jerry.B · 06-17-2003, 02:10 PM

I have one just like this but much older and with tarnish and without the Mauser marking. Mr. Shattuck advised me it was a 1906 cleaning rod. I just used it a few minutes ago to push an olled patch thru my "new" 1920 9mm shooter.

Edward Tinker · 06-17-2003, 03:51 PM

Jerry that is very interesting, so I wonder if the newer Mauser is a copy of the old original one?

Jerry, how sure are you that it is an old one?

I mean, it has the age and patina of an old one?

Ed

Jerry.B · 06-18-2003, 11:29 AM

I think I fat-fingered my response, so here goes again:

Yes, it has patina. I'm mainly going by Mr. Shattuck's statement which was 1906, worth about $25.

DAVID · 06-18-2003, 09:08 PM

If you have a copy of Gene Bender's book (LUGER HOLSTER'S AND THEIR ACCESSORIES) You will see that it is actually Portugese luger cleaning rod. From the photo it appears to have been remarked for later lugers..Netherland also used the same think

Ron Wood · 06-18-2003, 11:10 PM

David,
You are correct that both Portugal and the Netherlands used cleaning rods of this type. The one pictured above is as Lugerdoc described, a part of a 1970s Mauser commemorative issue. The earlier cleaning rods have a much smaller cap on the oiler, and the knurling on the cap is the full height of the cap in a diamond pattern, not the square checkered row shown on the Mauser rod.

JerryB,
Unless it is really ratty, your estimate of the value of your 1906 era cleaning rod, if original, is at least $70-$100 short. There are fairly good reproductions being made now, but even those cost more than $25.

Big Norm · 06-20-2003, 03:39 AM

This has a sort of simularity to a cleaning rod shown in "Lugers At Random" page 416. There is a picture of a GNR holster rig. Only the spiraled tip on the rod is different. Also see Jan Stills "Third Reich Lugers and Their Accessories" page 200.
Big Norm

05-19-2003, 05:12 AM	#1
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Odd cleaning tool. I purchased this cleaning tool at a gun auction last weekend and ask if any one can identify it please. The oil bottle has a screw on cap with a tapered flat spoon fitted inside. on the opposite end of the oil bottle the Mauser banner is clearly stamped. The shaft is brass and the turned groves on the end of the brass shaft are fine, much like the late model Mauser cleaning rods that do not have an oil bottle attached. Can anyone help please __________________ Lugers down under

05-19-2003, 09:10 AM	#2
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Murry, The Mauser marked oiler type rod shown above in your photos was issued with one of the 1970's Mauser commeratives. I've forgotten which one at the moment, but perhaps F. Allen will advise. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

06-17-2003, 02:10 PM	#4
Jerry.B User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have one just like this but much older and with tarnish and without the Mauser marking. Mr. Shattuck advised me it was a 1906 cleaning rod. I just used it a few minutes ago to push an olled patch thru my "new" 1920 9mm shooter. __________________ JerryB, Arizona, USA

06-17-2003, 03:51 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,995 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	Jerry that is very interesting, so I wonder if the newer Mauser is a copy of the old original one? Jerry, how sure are you that it is an old one? I mean, it has the age and patina of an old one? Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-18-2003, 11:29 AM	#6
Jerry.B User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think I fat-fingered my response, so here goes again: Yes, it has patina. I'm mainly going by Mr. Shattuck's statement which was 1906, worth about $25. __________________ JerryB, Arizona, USA

05-19-2003, 07:38 PM	#3
ken d Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: louisville ky Posts: 277 Thanks: 31 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Murry/Tom I have a "cased" Mauser 06/73 Cartridge Counter that has the same cleaning rod. Regards Ken D

06-18-2003, 09:08 PM	#7
DAVID User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Debary, FL. Posts: 129 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If you have a copy of Gene Bender's book (LUGER HOLSTER'S AND THEIR ACCESSORIES) You will see that it is actually Portugese luger cleaning rod. From the photo it appears to have been remarked for later lugers..Netherland also used the same think

06-18-2003, 11:10 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,989 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	David, You are correct that both Portugal and the Netherlands used cleaning rods of this type. The one pictured above is as Lugerdoc described, a part of a 1970s Mauser commemorative issue. The earlier cleaning rods have a much smaller cap on the oiler, and the knurling on the cap is the full height of the cap in a diamond pattern, not the square checkered row shown on the Mauser rod. JerryB, Unless it is really ratty, your estimate of the value of your 1906 era cleaning rod, if original, is at least $70-$100 short. There are fairly good reproductions being made now, but even those cost more than $25. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-20-2003, 03:39 AM	#9
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	This has a sort of simularity to a cleaning rod shown in "Lugers At Random" page 416. There is a picture of a GNR holster rig. Only the spiraled tip on the rod is different. Also see Jan Stills "Third Reich Lugers and Their Accessories" page 200. Big Norm