Unknown Feature

Robert Markley · 03-03-2003, 10:15 AM

On my 1918 DWM Luger there is a 7MM hole in the left side of the
frame under the trigger plate slightly above and behind the trigger
pivot hole. I can see no apparent purpose for this hole. The hole is
not present on my 1911 Erfurt nor have I seen it on any other Lugers
or on any diagrams. Can any one explain the purpose of the hole
or is this just an anomaly?

Doug G. · 03-03-2003, 10:26 AM

Is you P.08 a police model by any chance? Does it have a rectangular notch just behind the side plate? The only reason I know for a hole there is for the magazine safety.

Frank · 03-03-2003, 11:04 AM

P.08, that would be my guess as well!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Ron Wood · 03-03-2003, 11:35 AM

Here is an illustration that was posted in another thread

Robert Markley · 03-03-2003, 02:15 PM

The hole appears to be correct for the magazine safety as shown in the
diagram but there is no frame cut. The pistol is a Simpson rework possible
for police use. The underside of the barrel is marked :
"ZDF SLC UT P-08 9mm GER"
All other markings other than Simpson proof appear to be German Military.

Ron Wood · 03-03-2003, 02:51 PM

The ZDF etc. on the barrel is an importers mark and I quote from an earlier inquiry about this mark: "The markings are ZDF Import/Export Inc., otherwise known as Robinson Armament Company, P.O. Box 16776, Salt Lake City, Utah 84116. Their web site is www.robarm.com ". The fact that your Luger does not have a frame cut could be because the modification was never completed, since the magazine safety was proving to be more trouble than it was worth. Or, there are some examples where this cut has been expertly welded up during rework and is difficult to see that it ever was there. The hole was probably too large to weld up and is covered up by the side plate anyway.

03-03-2003, 10:15 AM	#1
Robert Markley User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Unknown Feature On my 1918 DWM Luger there is a 7MM hole in the left side of the frame under the trigger plate slightly above and behind the trigger pivot hole. I can see no apparent purpose for this hole. The hole is not present on my 1911 Erfurt nor have I seen it on any other Lugers or on any diagrams. Can any one explain the purpose of the hole or is this just an anomaly?

03-03-2003, 10:26 AM	#2
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	Is you P.08 a police model by any chance? Does it have a rectangular notch just behind the side plate? The only reason I know for a hole there is for the magazine safety. __________________ Suppose you were an idiot.....and suppose you were a member of Congress.....But I repeat myself" ~~ Mark Twain

03-03-2003, 11:35 AM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	Here is an illustration that was posted in another thread __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-03-2003, 02:51 PM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	The ZDF etc. on the barrel is an importers mark and I quote from an earlier inquiry about this mark: "The markings are ZDF Import/Export Inc., otherwise known as Robinson Armament Company, P.O. Box 16776, Salt Lake City, Utah 84116. Their web site is www.robarm.com ". The fact that your Luger does not have a frame cut could be because the modification was never completed, since the magazine safety was proving to be more trouble than it was worth. Or, there are some examples where this cut has been expertly welded up during rework and is difficult to see that it ever was there. The hole was probably too large to weld up and is covered up by the side plate anyway. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-03-2003, 11:04 AM	#3
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 164 Times in 87 Posts	P.08, that would be my guess as well!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

03-03-2003, 02:15 PM	#5
Robert Markley User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The hole appears to be correct for the magazine safety as shown in the diagram but there is no frame cut. The pistol is a Simpson rework possible for police use. The underside of the barrel is marked : "ZDF SLC UT P-08 9mm GER" All other markings other than Simpson proof appear to be German Military.