Dwight, Pete, Gerben, Ron or Anyone! Swiss???

Ron Smith · 07-06-2004, 09:10 PM

Okay guys, I'm like the guy who just learned to drive. Thinking about how I'm going to be an Indy winner. Way out of my league.

98% Swiss,long frame, two dime sized frosty spots on front strap.
Bottom of barrel a bit faded.
All other is perfect, factory crisp, beautiful blue.
Cross in Shield on toggle.
Ser# P26159. Also stamped around barrel flange on left side
Proofed with F+ within a large W, on rear of upper above lanyard staple.
Grips are dark brown plastic with makers marks top and bottom.
Barrel is 4 3/4" with mint bore. The price is firm at $2595.00

What is it exactly,and is the price out of bounds?

Edicate me!! Thanks! Ron

(Copied and pasted from Sill's Forum)

Ron Wood · 07-06-2004, 11:56 PM

1929 Swiss Commercial. WAY too much money even for a mint example. I would think it should come in at a lot closer to $2000 (or less) than $2500.

Ron Smith · 07-08-2004, 11:02 AM

Ron, Thanks! I'm getting all kinds of opinions. Yours is in the middle. And probably the most accurate. I am told that there were only 200-400 produced with P ser#. Yet "Handguns of the World" says just under 2000.

Ron

Pete Ebbink · 07-13-2004, 07:37 PM

Hi Ron S.,

Maybe the 200-400 number you received was meant to indicate the number of P-serialed guns in one particular year.

V. Bobba in his Swiss luger book estimates a maximum number of these for all the years produced at ~ 1,917 lugers with the P-serial number as follow :

1938-1939 P-25000 to P-25300 300 total
1940 P-25301 to P-25700 400 total
1941 P-25701 to P-25800 100 total
1942-1943 P-25801 to P-26300 500 total
1944 P-26301 to P-26600 300 total
1947 P-77941 to P-78258 317 total

His maximum numbers are estimates based on his research of inital and final serial numbers reported for each year. It is not certain that each year's production of the P-serialed lugers was consecutive and sequential through the number range...so the 1,917 number of lugers may be high...if time reveals that less pistols in each year's groupings were made.

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

07-06-2004, 09:10 PM	#1
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Dwight, Pete, Gerben, Ron or Anyone! Swiss??? Okay guys, I'm like the guy who just learned to drive. Thinking about how I'm going to be an Indy winner. Way out of my league. 98% Swiss,long frame, two dime sized frosty spots on front strap. Bottom of barrel a bit faded. All other is perfect, factory crisp, beautiful blue. Cross in Shield on toggle. Ser# P26159. Also stamped around barrel flange on left side Proofed with F+ within a large W, on rear of upper above lanyard staple. Grips are dark brown plastic with makers marks top and bottom. Barrel is 4 3/4" with mint bore. The price is firm at $2595.00 What is it exactly,and is the price out of bounds? Edicate me!! Thanks! Ron (Copied and pasted from Sill's Forum) __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

07-06-2004, 11:56 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	1929 Swiss Commercial. WAY too much money even for a mint example. I would think it should come in at a lot closer to $2000 (or less) than $2500. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-08-2004, 11:02 AM	#3
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Ron, Thanks! I'm getting all kinds of opinions. Yours is in the middle. And probably the most accurate. I am told that there were only 200-400 produced with P ser#. Yet "Handguns of the World" says just under 2000. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

07-13-2004, 07:37 PM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Ron S., Maybe the 200-400 number you received was meant to indicate the number of P-serialed guns in one particular year. V. Bobba in his Swiss luger book estimates a maximum number of these for all the years produced at ~ 1,917 lugers with the P-serial number as follow : 1938-1939 P-25000 to P-25300 300 total 1940 P-25301 to P-25700 400 total 1941 P-25701 to P-25800 100 total 1942-1943 P-25801 to P-26300 500 total 1944 P-26301 to P-26600 300 total 1947 P-77941 to P-78258 317 total His maximum numbers are estimates based on his research of inital and final serial numbers reported for each year. It is not certain that each year's production of the P-serialed lugers was consecutive and sequential through the number range...so the 1,917 number of lugers may be high...if time reveals that less pistols in each year's groupings were made. Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />