phoenix investment arms

james haven · 11-11-2016, 06:38 PM

i am looking at one of their lugers.does anybody have any pro,or cons about dealing with them?
thank you
james haven

mrerick · 11-11-2016, 06:47 PM

I have never done business with them.

It's unusual for us to criticize individual dealers here, even the most creative ones.

My personal favorite dealers include:

Simpson's Ltd in Galesburg, Il
CheckpointCharlies.com
legacy-collectibles.com

There are others too...

What are you lookng for specifically?

George Anderson · 11-11-2016, 06:50 PM

It all depends upon the individual item

DavidJayUden · 11-11-2016, 06:50 PM

I've never dealt with them. Nor had any contact with them.
But it would appear that they are extremely proud of their inventory, placing it well out of reach for most of us. They seem to want to cater to the rather well-heeled.
I will say that their photography and "research" is very detailed and easy to look at, however they are not without theri critics...
Personally I would check elsewhere, like Simpsons, Ltd. They seem to be honest, are very well stocked, and while priced at the retail level, they are not unreasonable.
Just my $.02
If you care to, post a link to the specific listing and these guys will give their honest evaluation. I don't believe that there will be any axe-grinding.
dju

Edward Tinker · 11-11-2016, 06:56 PM

I have bought one fairly rare Simson from them, pretty sure it had been prettied up, not sure by who, but I knew it when I bought it. Have dealt with the company on several other occasions and was treated fairly.

What I suggest you do is read through the forums, do searches on company names like Marc stated and of course be educated on what you are buying. Knowledge is everything. Buy books before guns.

Don't buy pretty unless you know what you're buying - that said, I have seen 100+ year old lugers that were really - really nice and own a couple that look almost new.

Ed

james haven · 11-11-2016, 10:16 PM

thank all of you who have or may answere later. i have more time than money so it will be awhile before i buy anything.
thank you,
james haven

DonVoigt · 11-11-2016, 10:44 PM

A lot of their "write up" in their ad/description usually has nothing to do the the luger at hand, just fluff and nice pictures.

I'd be very careful and post any real interest here before buying- but that is true of any seller or auction.

Mac Cat · 11-12-2016, 10:24 AM

Never dealt with them, either.

Nice web site, interesting and expensive Lugers in thoughtful displays.

Go in person, particularly if you are considering buying anything there.

11-11-2016, 06:38 PM	#1
james haven User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: washington state Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	phoenix investment arms i am looking at one of their lugers.does anybody have any pro,or cons about dealing with them? thank you james haven

11-11-2016, 06:47 PM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	I have never done business with them. It's unusual for us to criticize individual dealers here, even the most creative ones. My personal favorite dealers include: Simpson's Ltd in Galesburg, Il CheckpointCharlies.com legacy-collectibles.com There are others too... What are you lookng for specifically? __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	I have bought one fairly rare Simson from them, pretty sure it had been prettied up, not sure by who, but I knew it when I bought it. Have dealt with the company on several other occasions and was treated fairly. What I suggest you do is read through the forums, do searches on company names like Marc stated and of course be educated on what you are buying. Knowledge is everything. Buy books before guns. Don't buy pretty unless you know what you're buying - that said, I have seen 100+ year old lugers that were really - really nice and own a couple that look almost new. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-11-2016, 10:16 PM	#6
james haven User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: washington state Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	phoenix investment arms thank all of you who have or may answere later. i have more time than money so it will be awhile before i buy anything. thank you, james haven

11-11-2016, 10:44 PM	#7
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,355 Times in 2,041 Posts	A lot of their "write up" in their ad/description usually has nothing to do the the luger at hand, just fluff and nice pictures. I'd be very careful and post any real interest here before buying- but that is true of any seller or auction. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

11-11-2016, 06:50 PM	#3
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	It all depends upon the individual item

11-11-2016, 06:50 PM	#4
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I've never dealt with them. Nor had any contact with them. But it would appear that they are extremely proud of their inventory, placing it well out of reach for most of us. They seem to want to cater to the rather well-heeled. I will say that their photography and "research" is very detailed and easy to look at, however they are not without theri critics... Personally I would check elsewhere, like Simpsons, Ltd. They seem to be honest, are very well stocked, and while priced at the retail level, they are not unreasonable. Just my $.02 If you care to, post a link to the specific listing and these guys will give their honest evaluation. I don't believe that there will be any axe-grinding. dju

11-12-2016, 10:24 AM	#8
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 751 Thanks: 2,158 Thanked 630 Times in 340 Posts	Never dealt with them, either. Nice web site, interesting and expensive Lugers in thoughtful displays. Go in person, particularly if you are considering buying anything there.