Over stamp/double strike?

Dave Sanders · 05-19-2016, 06:53 PM

Is this a common or sometimes thing that happens in stamping lugers, or ?? I saw this on another site and wondered your ideas on this on the 8.
Dave

Dave Sanders · 05-19-2016, 06:54 PM

I also wondered about the 1 being off a bit, too.
Dave

DavidJayUden · 05-19-2016, 07:03 PM

Must have been stamped the morning after pay-day...
dju

DonVoigt · 05-19-2016, 08:09 PM

Looks like a simple overstrike of the 8 to me, nothing nefarious.

George Anderson · 05-19-2016, 08:12 PM

Better asked, why does the "1" on the barrel have a serif and not the "1" on the frame.

Norme · 05-19-2016, 08:35 PM

Hi Dave, It might help if we knew what gun we're looking at here. Is it a 1936 S/42?
Regards, Norm

Dave Sanders · 05-19-2016, 11:20 PM

Sorry, yes it is a 1936 S 42

Norme · 05-20-2016, 07:54 AM

Hi Dave,
As I thought. This variation used slightly differing fonts for the barrel and frame serial numbers, and the footed 1 on the barrel and the footless 1 on the frame are both correct. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with this gun (at least what's visible in the single photo), sometimes a double strike is just that, a double strike.
Regards, Norm

John Sabato · 05-20-2016, 08:32 AM

Sometimes a "double-strike" can be the result of a hammer bounce from using the wrong type hammer, or holding the hammer or numbering stamp improperly... not necessarily a change in numbers.

Dave Sanders · 05-20-2016, 07:43 PM

Thank you for that info. I was curious about it not thinking it was messed with, but how it could slip pass the inspectors.
Dave

mrerick · 05-20-2016, 08:02 PM

I have a Luger that was double struck with the adjacent numeric digit in the serial number. This one was also a 1936 Mauser. I wonder if this worker did both... Same block, 2,800 guns apart... They have really good Schnapps in Oberndorf... I wonder where they were working in 1937...

The worker probably picked up the wrong die stamp, and then over-stamped the correct number.

The workers were human; made mistakes and were not thinking about collectors 70 or 80 years down the road...

Marc

DonVoigt · 05-20-2016, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Sanders

Thank you for that info. I was curious about it not thinking it was messed with, but how it could slip pass the inspectors.
Dave

Evidence would indicate that a double strike was not a reason for failing inspection- which makes sense- it has no impact on the serviceability of the arm.

05-19-2016, 06:53 PM	#1
Dave Sanders User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hamer, Idaho Posts: 273 Thanks: 19 Thanked 39 Times in 20 Posts	Over stamp/double strike? Is this a common or sometimes thing that happens in stamping lugers, or ?? I saw this on another site and wondered your ideas on this on the 8. Dave Attached Thumbnails

05-19-2016, 08:09 PM	#4
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,678 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	Looks like a simple overstrike of the 8 to me, nothing nefarious. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

05-20-2016, 08:32 AM	#9
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Sometimes a "double-strike" can be the result of a hammer bounce from using the wrong type hammer, or holding the hammer or numbering stamp improperly... not necessarily a change in numbers. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

05-20-2016, 08:02 PM	#11
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	I have a Luger that was double struck with the adjacent numeric digit in the serial number. This one was also a 1936 Mauser. I wonder if this worker did both... Same block, 2,800 guns apart... They have really good Schnapps in Oberndorf... I wonder where they were working in 1937... The worker probably picked up the wrong die stamp, and then over-stamped the correct number. The workers were human; made mistakes and were not thinking about collectors 70 or 80 years down the road... Marc Attached Thumbnails __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

05-19-2016, 06:54 PM	#2
Dave Sanders User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hamer, Idaho Posts: 273 Thanks: 19 Thanked 39 Times in 20 Posts	I also wondered about the 1 being off a bit, too. Dave

05-19-2016, 07:03 PM	#3
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Must have been stamped the morning after pay-day... dju

05-19-2016, 08:12 PM	#5
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Better asked, why does the "1" on the barrel have a serif and not the "1" on the frame.

05-19-2016, 08:35 PM	#6
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,415 Thanks: 225 Thanked 2,594 Times in 931 Posts	Hi Dave, It might help if we knew what gun we're looking at here. Is it a 1936 S/42? Regards, Norm

05-19-2016, 11:20 PM	#7
Dave Sanders User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hamer, Idaho Posts: 273 Thanks: 19 Thanked 39 Times in 20 Posts	Sorry, yes it is a 1936 S 42

05-20-2016, 07:54 AM	#8
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,415 Thanks: 225 Thanked 2,594 Times in 931 Posts	Hi Dave, As I thought. This variation used slightly differing fonts for the barrel and frame serial numbers, and the footed 1 on the barrel and the footless 1 on the frame are both correct. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with this gun (at least what's visible in the single photo), sometimes a double strike is just that, a double strike. Regards, Norm

05-20-2016, 07:43 PM	#10
Dave Sanders User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hamer, Idaho Posts: 273 Thanks: 19 Thanked 39 Times in 20 Posts	Thank you for that info. I was curious about it not thinking it was messed with, but how it could slip pass the inspectors. Dave