Nazi Gold Train Update

Curly1 · 03-29-2016, 06:26 PM

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war...gin-month.html

Edward Tinker · 03-29-2016, 07:38 PM

I thought it was a 'done and over' deal as crazy gold hunters. Be fascinating if they find something. I watched a program on stolen art by the Nazi's, a very large amount never has been found (probably blown up, burned or in Michigan

Ed

alanint · 03-30-2016, 06:33 AM

If I were the Polish Government, I would have let this die down, as well, then start digging quietly.

sheepherder · 03-30-2016, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

Be fascinating if they find something.

I would enjoy reading/seeing pics of a recovered WW II locomotive. Especially an armored locomotive. With flak guns.

Olle · 03-30-2016, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by alanint

If I were the Polish Government, I would have let this die down, as well, then start digging quietly.

The fact that they haven't allowed them to dig points in that direction, doesn't it? I can't see any legit reason why they can't go ahead and get it over with, it's just like they're stalling it to wear out the treasure hunters.

But of course, it could also be that History Channel is there dragging it out by shooting a 10 season TV show. "In this weeks episode, Piotr fights local officials to get permission to dig..."

Arizona Slim · 03-30-2016, 11:00 AM

This is reminiscent of the so called money pit on Oak Island in Halifax, Canada. The world watches and waits to see if anything will ever come of it.

Lon

Olle · 03-30-2016, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Arizona Slim

This is reminiscent of the so called money pit on Oak Island in Halifax, Canada. The world watches and waits to see if anything will ever come of it.

Lon

That's exactly what I was referring to. I started watching it, but after a few episodes I realized that this is something they will drag out ad nauseam. Still, I'm sure that many people love to spend an hour of their life watching an episode that ends with the crew losing equipment in the pit, unearthing "a significant piece of wood" or a similar, anticlimactic event. However, I would like to watch the last episode whenever it airs... I hope they have History Channel at the nursing home.

Edward Tinker · 03-30-2016, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Arizona Slim

This is reminiscent of the so called money pit on Oak Island in Halifax, Canada. The world watches and waits to see if anything will ever come of it.

Lon

Remember Al Capones 'Vault' - talk about a let down

they could have at least found a Thompson

tomaustin · 03-30-2016, 09:19 PM

the most famous two were already in the Berrien County Sheriff's Office.....St. Valentine's Day Massacre............

Arizona Slim · 03-30-2016, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

Remember Al Capones 'Vault' - talk about a let down

they could have at least found a Thompson

I remember watching that too Ed, I was sitting on the edge of my seat expecting them to make a big find and all they found was dust and cobwebs. Sure made Geraldo Rivera look just a little foolish.

Lon

wlyon · 03-30-2016, 10:56 PM

He did not even need an empty vault to look that way. Bill

conehammer · 03-31-2016, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Arizona Slim

I remember watching that too Ed, I was sitting on the edge of my seat expecting them to make a big find and all they found was dust and cobwebs. Sure made Geraldo Rivera look just a little foolish.

Lon

It would have been worth it had they found Jimmy Hoffa....

alanint · 03-31-2016, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Olle

That's exactly what I was referring to. I started watching it, but after a few episodes I realized that this is something they will drag out ad nauseam. Still, I'm sure that many people love to spend an hour of their life watching an episode that ends with the crew losing equipment in the pit, unearthing "a significant piece of wood" or a similar, anticlimactic event. However, I would like to watch the last episode whenever it airs... I hope they have History Channel at the nursing home.

And the obvious thing is, since they film months in advance, any discovery would already be all over the news. It would be impossible to keep it quiet. And since there is no news of a discovery, what can we actually look forward to?

Arizona Slim · 03-31-2016, 10:02 AM

":And the obvious thing is, since they film months in advance, any discovery would already be all over the news. It would be impossible to keep it quiet. And since there is no news of a discovery, what can we actually look forward to?"
Doug

Absolutely correct Doug, I should have thought of that.

Lon

Diver6106 · 03-31-2016, 01:37 PM

... then there are all the legal questions. Who owns what, jewish claims, and the BIG BEAR... Russia! Anything from Russia, Putin will insist on having returned at the risk of military action! While poor Poland was decimated by the Nazis and Soviets at the beginning of war and had to suffer under the Iron Curtain for many years and will want restitution to be tied to any returned items - the Amber Room?

So maybe it would be better to wait until Putin leaves before finding out what is down there. There are still some secrets from WWII that can't be told or even asked...

I sat in to round table discussions at the 60th anniversary of the Warsaw Uprising with Polish & US WWII vets (my dad flew a mission to drop them supplies on 18 Sep 44) and the Poles were NOT happy that they were not free after the war, but still occupied by the USSR. So there are still bitter relations with Russia.

rhuff · 03-31-2016, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tomaustin

the most famous two were already in the Berrien County Sheriff's Office.....St. Valentine's Day Massacre............

John Dillinger's tommy gun is housed/displayed at the Tucson Police Dept. It is a famous one also.

kurusu · 03-31-2016, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by alanint

And the obvious thing is, since they film months in advance, any discovery would already be all over the news. It would be impossible to keep it quiet. And since there is no news of a discovery, what can we actually look forward to?

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kurusu · 03-31-2016, 04:12 PM

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John Dillinger's tommy gun is housed/displayed at the Tucson Police Dept. It is a famous one also.

You mean one of John Dillinger's Tommy guns, don't you?

Olle · 03-31-2016, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by alanint

And the obvious thing is, since they film months in advance, any discovery would already be all over the news. It would be impossible to keep it quiet. And since there is no news of a discovery, what can we actually look forward to?

I'm wondering how that works... Those Oak Island boys must have signed a contract saying that they can't make their finds public other than through the show. Would be rather anticlimactic if you heard about the big find (if there will ever be one) on CNN long before you saw it on the show.

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You mean one of John Dillinger's Tommy guns, don't you?

If Dillinger really owned all the guns that have been attributed to him, he would have had to travel by freight train. Kinda like Hermann Goering...

alanint · 04-01-2016, 07:09 AM

[QUOTE=Olle;286269]I'm wondering how that works... Those Oak Island boys must have signed a contract saying that they can't make their finds public other than through the show. Would be rather anticlimactic if you heard about the big find (if there will ever be one) on CNN long before you saw it on the show.

Yes, but with all the cast, crew, contractors, curious hangers-on, etc. there is NO way that could be kept under wraps for long. A find would be monumental. How much would they have to pay each participant for a couple of months of silence?

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,960 Thanks: 2,062 Thanked 4,592 Times in 2,114 Posts	I thought it was a 'done and over' deal as crazy gold hunters. Be fascinating if they find something. I watched a program on stolen art by the Nazi's, a very large amount never has been found (probably blown up, burned or in Michigan Ed

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alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	If I were the Polish Government, I would have let this die down, as well, then start digging quietly.

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Arizona Slim Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 706 Thanks: 1,026 Thanked 409 Times in 225 Posts	This is reminiscent of the so called money pit on Oak Island in Halifax, Canada. The world watches and waits to see if anything will ever come of it. Lon

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Arizona Slim Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 706 Thanks: 1,026 Thanked 409 Times in 225 Posts	":And the obvious thing is, since they film months in advance, any discovery would already be all over the news. It would be impossible to keep it quiet. And since there is no news of a discovery, what can we actually look forward to?" Doug Absolutely correct Doug, I should have thought of that. Lon

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Diver6106 User Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Mt. Vernon VA Posts: 245 Thanks: 1,430 Thanked 117 Times in 75 Posts	... then there are all the legal questions. Who owns what, jewish claims, and the BIG BEAR... Russia! Anything from Russia, Putin will insist on having returned at the risk of military action! While poor Poland was decimated by the Nazis and Soviets at the beginning of war and had to suffer under the Iron Curtain for many years and will want restitution to be tied to any returned items - the Amber Room? So maybe it would be better to wait until Putin leaves before finding out what is down there. There are still some secrets from WWII that can't be told or even asked... I sat in to round table discussions at the 60th anniversary of the Warsaw Uprising with Polish & US WWII vets (my dad flew a mission to drop them supplies on 18 Sep 44) and the Poles were NOT happy that they were not free after the war, but still occupied by the USSR. So there are still bitter relations with Russia.

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alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	[QUOTE=Olle;286269]I'm wondering how that works... Those Oak Island boys must have signed a contract saying that they can't make their finds public other than through the show. Would be rather anticlimactic if you heard about the big find (if there will ever be one) on CNN long before you saw it on the show. Yes, but with all the cast, crew, contractors, curious hangers-on, etc. there is NO way that could be kept under wraps for long. A find would be monumental. How much would they have to pay each participant for a couple of months of silence?