Original Snail Drum owners!

G.T. · 12-17-2015, 02:27 PM

Hello to all! I hope all of you have a wonderful holiday season and into the new year... but, still, there is time to get some work done before Santa comes.... I have a small request for all the members, that have one or more Luger 32 round snail drums.. I need a cross section of measurements of:
The distance from the top front edge of the front spine, down to the TOP of the mag catch notch? Please measure it with a caliper, digital, dial, or vernier.... (I can't even remember how to run those things?...

) Anyway, the measurement should be somewhere between 1.050" and 1.120" with maybe an extreme at 1.130" + I'm interested in where the notch was original cut, not where it has degraded to? The more the merrier, please lend me a hand in this as you guys are an important resource in the quest to hunt down gremlins and such!

... best to all, til...lat'r....GT

gctomeks@msn.com

Neil Young · 12-17-2015, 02:49 PM

1.085"

Arizona Slim · 12-17-2015, 10:54 PM

I get 1.107 G.T.

Lon

DonVoigt · 12-17-2015, 11:17 PM

1.109

I'd call it from the notch to the front edge, i.e. the rounded part or front of the mag body section.
What I'd call a spine is on the side, and varies depending on how much it is rolled over.

Don

G.T. · 12-18-2015, 11:50 AM

Yes! I know all those machinist terms!...

.. "From the top of the rounded thingy on the pointy end, to the top of the mostly square hole part further down on the rounded thingy" ......

... communication is always the key!... Thanks for the info boys! Keep it coming.. makes a hugh difference in performance! More than anyone probably realizes?... Thanks Don, til....lat'r....GT

Norme · 12-18-2015, 03:28 PM

Hi G.T.
A.E.G. 1.078"
Bing Type 1 1.105"
Bing Type 2 1.100"
Regards, Norm

G.T. · 12-18-2015, 05:40 PM

Excellent info guys! It's starting to look like 1.100" to 1.110" is the current preferred range?.... A couple of them less, not many of the ones I measured have been more than the above range.... Thanks to all, please continue if you have data to add! Thanks and best to all, til...lat'r...GT.....

DonVoigt · 12-18-2015, 06:56 PM

GT,
If you err to the long side, one can always adjust the notch up, with a needle file!
Tough to fill it in if it is too high, causing the mag to ride low in the receiver.
Just my $.02.

G.T. · 12-18-2015, 07:25 PM

Hi Don, as you well know, too little is a killer, and too little would definitely create problems such as we have been battling for quite awhile!....

.... I am trying at this point to see what the original minimum, and also average dimension is, to arrive at a workable compromise?... It has the fit the loader as well, and with a lot of bending to the loaders insert lip limits, I find it will just barely accept 1.140" so, that is obviously outside the long dimension parameter for compatibility? And, also, 1.035" is an area where we already know the demon dwells! .....

... It's really looking like 1.100" to 1.110" is going to be ideal?....probably start at 1.120" and see how everything pans out.....

... we're close.... Stay tuned, Best to you Don, til...lat'r...GT.........

lugerholsterrepair · 12-18-2015, 07:58 PM

GT..Would LOVE to add to this but my full P-Kasten is at my Summer home! Sorry...But keep up the great work!

G.T. · 12-18-2015, 09:01 PM

Hi Jer, we are hot on the trail!.....

..... who would have ever thought it would be an adventure like this?..... But, what fun as well!....Best to you, til...lat'r...GT.....

Grantas · 12-19-2015, 02:22 AM

Bing Magazine 1.109

Desperado · 12-20-2015, 07:56 PM

Bing (that you rebuilt for me) 1.100.

Doug

12-17-2015, 02:27 PM	#1
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,520 Thanks: 1,321 Thanked 3,706 Times in 1,011 Posts	Original Snail Drum owners! Hello to all! I hope all of you have a wonderful holiday season and into the new year... but, still, there is time to get some work done before Santa comes.... I have a small request for all the members, that have one or more Luger 32 round snail drums.. I need a cross section of measurements of: The distance from the top front edge of the front spine, down to the TOP of the mag catch notch? Please measure it with a caliper, digital, dial, or vernier.... (I can't even remember how to run those things?...) Anyway, the measurement should be somewhere between 1.050" and 1.120" with maybe an extreme at 1.130" + I'm interested in where the notch was original cut, not where it has degraded to? The more the merrier, please lend me a hand in this as you guys are an important resource in the quest to hunt down gremlins and such!... best to all, til...lat'r....GT gctomeks@msn.com

12-17-2015, 02:49 PM	#2
Neil Young Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Scottsboro, Alabama Posts: 546 Thanks: 559 Thanked 443 Times in 168 Posts	1.085" __________________ Neil The hurrier I go the behinder I get. Sometimes it takes me all day to get nothing done.

12-17-2015, 11:17 PM	#4
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,354 Times in 2,041 Posts	1.109 I'd call it from the notch to the front edge, i.e. the rounded part or front of the mag body section. What I'd call a spine is on the side, and varies depending on how much it is rolled over. Don __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

12-18-2015, 11:50 AM	#5
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,520 Thanks: 1,321 Thanked 3,706 Times in 1,011 Posts	Hi Don! Yes! I know all those machinist terms!..... "From the top of the rounded thingy on the pointy end, to the top of the mostly square hole part further down on the rounded thingy" ......... communication is always the key!... Thanks for the info boys! Keep it coming.. makes a hugh difference in performance! More than anyone probably realizes?... Thanks Don, til....lat'r....GT

12-18-2015, 05:40 PM	#7
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,520 Thanks: 1,321 Thanked 3,706 Times in 1,011 Posts	pattern emerges? Excellent info guys! It's starting to look like 1.100" to 1.110" is the current preferred range?.... A couple of them less, not many of the ones I measured have been more than the above range.... Thanks to all, please continue if you have data to add! Thanks and best to all, til...lat'r...GT.....

12-17-2015, 10:54 PM	#3
Arizona Slim Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 706 Thanks: 1,026 Thanked 409 Times in 225 Posts	I get 1.107 G.T. Lon

12-18-2015, 03:28 PM	#6
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	Hi G.T. A.E.G. 1.078" Bing Type 1 1.105" Bing Type 2 1.100" Regards, Norm

12-18-2015, 06:56 PM	#8
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,354 Times in 2,041 Posts	GT, If you err to the long side, one can always adjust the notch up, with a needle file! Tough to fill it in if it is too high, causing the mag to ride low in the receiver. Just my $.02. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

12-18-2015, 07:25 PM	#9
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,520 Thanks: 1,321 Thanked 3,706 Times in 1,011 Posts	yes, you are correct.... Hi Don, as you well know, too little is a killer, and too little would definitely create problems such as we have been battling for quite awhile!........ I am trying at this point to see what the original minimum, and also average dimension is, to arrive at a workable compromise?... It has the fit the loader as well, and with a lot of bending to the loaders insert lip limits, I find it will just barely accept 1.140" so, that is obviously outside the long dimension parameter for compatibility? And, also, 1.035" is an area where we already know the demon dwells! ........ It's really looking like 1.100" to 1.110" is going to be ideal?....probably start at 1.120" and see how everything pans out..... ... we're close.... Stay tuned, Best to you Don, til...lat'r...GT.........

12-18-2015, 07:58 PM	#10
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,132 Times in 1,439 Posts	GT..Would LOVE to add to this but my full P-Kasten is at my Summer home! Sorry...But keep up the great work! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

12-18-2015, 09:01 PM	#11
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,520 Thanks: 1,321 Thanked 3,706 Times in 1,011 Posts	no problem..... Hi Jer, we are hot on the trail!.......... who would have ever thought it would be an adventure like this?..... But, what fun as well!....Best to you, til...lat'r...GT.....

12-19-2015, 02:22 AM	#12
Grantas Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: New Zealand Posts: 55 Thanks: 274 Thanked 26 Times in 20 Posts	Bing Magazine 1.109 __________________ LOOKING for Erfurt Takedown lever and sideplate number 44 also DWM Magazine 2823a

12-20-2015, 07:56 PM	#13
Desperado User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Murphy, TX (near Dallas) Posts: 38 Thanks: 16 Thanked 46 Times in 16 Posts	Bing (that you rebuilt for me) 1.100. Doug