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09-23-2015, 04:17 PM | #1 |
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Interesting frame
I bought a bunch of parts this last weekend, and this frame was with it. figured it was useless - then saw something that caught my eye.
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09-23-2015, 05:12 PM | #2 |
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Nice score, Ed!! Too bad it's full of "rust"!
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just an old "rust"-y frame. |
09-23-2015, 06:11 PM | #4 |
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I've seen pics here of the 'Rust' marking...but I don't recall seeing any with the arrow...
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Early Dutch with the grip safety and no stock lug have the upward pointing arrow like this frame. After 1928 the Dutch Lugers were made like the German P08 without a grip safety and with a stock lug...these guns have a downward pointing arrow. Obviously Ed's frame came from an early Dutch.
Usually when I see a frame cut like this it is because someone was salvaging the stock lug to restore a Luger that had its stock lug ground off or to add a stock lug to a grip safety frame to create a "carbine" from a M1900 or M1906 Luger. Since Ed's gun never had a stock lug I have no idea why it was cut that way. Perhaps to restore a grip safety Luger that had a badly damaged lower rear frame?
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09-24-2015, 06:35 AM | #7 |
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I wouldn't try to restore this frame without having the hardness of the ears tested, not even for a shooter. The frame looks to me like it might have been in a house or vehicle fire and may have lost it's temper. It would make a good wall hanger, paperweight, umbrella handle, or display piece though...
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09-24-2015, 07:39 AM | #8 |
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Could be John, but looks more like its sandblasted and 1911 parkerized to me in person?
I have a friend who offered me a stock lug, hard to get a grip safety part? hmmm Ed |
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Ed,
There is a proper grip safety on eBay now for $95. Joe |
09-24-2015, 10:18 AM | #10 |
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Thanks Joe, I actually have at least one I think left. But getting that part of the frame might be hard... I wonder how the internals diff from safety to recoil - no recoil lug L needed?
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09-24-2015, 02:35 PM | #11 |
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I don't think you can use a P08 safety lever in a grip safety. The angle is wrong. I think some people were able to reverse the safety catch but that was above my pay grade.
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I'm thinking that if we got Eugene involved we could speed this project right along...
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Indeed. If he's back from vacation...
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Where does he vacation at? Siberia?
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It would be done by relocating the little lug on the grip safety lever. I do not know if the slot in the frame for its tip will cooperate immediately.
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