byf 41 655 with sear safety?

Gebirg · 04-25-2015, 04:55 AM

I have the chance to buy me a nice P.08
It is a byf41 with a blank Schmeisser police magazine?
It has the sear or Schiwy safety, but no police markings...?

What is this, anyone?
Sorry to say, i have no pics as we speak. The old owner is not capable to shoot and post some either...

Thanks!

Silvereagle29 · 04-27-2015, 01:51 AM

What is the serial number and letter suffix. Police 41-byf Military Lugers were issued with 3-MM-122 magazine and no Police Eagle K, F, C or L marks.

Gebirg · 04-27-2015, 02:49 PM

Silvereagle,
I will get hold of the serial in a week or so.
Do you have a photo of that magazine 3-mm-122?

Silvereagle29 · 04-27-2015, 05:26 PM

The 3-MM-122 magazine is simply the new extruded body type magazine that appeared in January of 1940. The magazine body is marked with the C.G. Haenel 122 code and a SE-37 acceptance mark. The magazine bottom is attached to the body with a center drilled base and attached with a concave pin. The 41-byf Luger with a sear safety was one of those 41 dated military Lugers that were authorized for shipment to the Police depot in Berlin by the Heerwaffenamt. Consequently, it did not display any Police marks, only the military acceptance and test proof marks. The 41-byf Police Luger is not found very often and will normally have the - o - or - p - letter suffix with the serial number. Good luck

Lyn Islaub · 05-04-2015, 12:01 AM

Blank toggle train and no "Mauser" hump? Doesn't look like a byf41 to me. Looks more like a late 20s BKIW sneak Luger.

Edward Tinker · 05-04-2015, 12:22 AM

Lyn, he doesn't say, but I think these are stolen pictures as an example and I am guessing is not the luger in question....

Silvereagle29 · 05-04-2015, 12:23 AM

Lyn
I believe you have "broke the code".

mrerick · 05-04-2015, 10:37 AM

The pictures you posted are from a commercial Luger dealer's site.

The picture you posted shows both the magazine and sear safeties.

If the Luger is the one pictured, I would use great care in inspecting it before buying.

If not, I would try and understand why they sent you pictures not relevant to the Luger being sold.

Marc

Edward Tinker · 05-04-2015, 05:51 PM

He states no pictures available, and he has not been back since the 28th.
However, I have made it where he gets notified now of a posting....

Gebirg · 05-06-2015, 05:38 PM

Hello again!
Sorry, i have been out of town, and i checked this byf41 P.08
Edward is correct, the picture is just an example and to show what i ment with the sear safety - sorry if you misunderstood...

This P.08 has the sear safety, and is in extremely good condition - serial is 3438 p
I think the deal is ok - pictures will come as soon as i get it...

ps:
Edward, i have not got any message that someone posted on this topic at my email...

thank you!

Gebirg · 05-12-2015, 05:38 PM

I will pick it up in two days...

Gebirg · 05-14-2015, 07:30 PM

I got it - WOW!!

05-04-2015, 12:22 AM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,974 Thanks: 2,072 Thanked 4,607 Times in 2,123 Posts	Lyn, he doesn't say, but I think these are stolen pictures as an example and I am guessing is not the luger in question.... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-04-2015, 10:37 AM	#8
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,925 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,139 Times in 1,520 Posts	The pictures you posted are from a commercial Luger dealer's site. The picture you posted shows both the magazine and sear safeties. If the Luger is the one pictured, I would use great care in inspecting it before buying. If not, I would try and understand why they sent you pictures not relevant to the Luger being sold. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

05-06-2015, 05:38 PM	#10
Gebirg User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Telemark Posts: 94 Thanks: 68 Thanked 158 Times in 34 Posts	Hello again! Sorry, i have been out of town, and i checked this byf41 P.08 Edward is correct, the picture is just an example and to show what i ment with the sear safety - sorry if you misunderstood... This P.08 has the sear safety, and is in extremely good condition - serial is 3438 p I think the deal is ok - pictures will come as soon as i get it... ps: Edward, i have not got any message that someone posted on this topic at my email... thank you! __________________ Mr. AKB - Norway "SILENT LEGES INTER ARMA" Denn unter den Waffen schweigen die Gesetze (M.T.Cicero) Last edited by Gebirg; 05-07-2015 at 03:51 AM.

05-14-2015, 07:30 PM	#12
Gebirg User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Telemark Posts: 94 Thanks: 68 Thanked 158 Times in 34 Posts	I got it - WOW!! __________________ Mr. AKB - Norway "SILENT LEGES INTER ARMA" Denn unter den Waffen schweigen die Gesetze (M.T.Cicero)

04-27-2015, 01:51 AM	#2
Silvereagle29 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 105 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	What is the serial number and letter suffix. Police 41-byf Military Lugers were issued with 3-MM-122 magazine and no Police Eagle K, F, C or L marks.

04-27-2015, 02:49 PM	#3
Gebirg User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Telemark Posts: 94 Thanks: 68 Thanked 158 Times in 34 Posts	Silvereagle, I will get hold of the serial in a week or so. Do you have a photo of that magazine 3-mm-122?

04-27-2015, 05:26 PM	#4
Silvereagle29 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 105 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	The 3-MM-122 magazine is simply the new extruded body type magazine that appeared in January of 1940. The magazine body is marked with the C.G. Haenel 122 code and a SE-37 acceptance mark. The magazine bottom is attached to the body with a center drilled base and attached with a concave pin. The 41-byf Luger with a sear safety was one of those 41 dated military Lugers that were authorized for shipment to the Police depot in Berlin by the Heerwaffenamt. Consequently, it did not display any Police marks, only the military acceptance and test proof marks. The 41-byf Police Luger is not found very often and will normally have the - o - or - p - letter suffix with the serial number. Good luck

05-04-2015, 12:01 AM	#5
Lyn Islaub Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 435 Thanks: 3 Thanked 152 Times in 72 Posts	Blank toggle train and no "Mauser" hump? Doesn't look like a byf41 to me. Looks more like a late 20s BKIW sneak Luger.

05-04-2015, 12:23 AM	#7
Silvereagle29 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 105 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Lyn I believe you have "broke the code".

05-04-2015, 05:51 PM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,974 Thanks: 2,072 Thanked 4,607 Times in 2,123 Posts	He states no pictures available, and he has not been back since the 28th. However, I have made it where he gets notified now of a posting....

05-12-2015, 05:38 PM	#11
Gebirg User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Telemark Posts: 94 Thanks: 68 Thanked 158 Times in 34 Posts	I will pick it up in two days...