C96 Persian Contract

alvin · 12-01-2013, 02:30 PM

Just noticed the 1st Persian that you posted from pre98.com. That one is probably OK. But from the picture, at least the bolt stop was refinished. It makes this otherwise good looking piece so unbalanced. It's a huge mistake to put this tiny part into melt mineral although the mineral itself is cheaply available on Brownells. People doing crazy things sometimes.

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[Edit] Not in hurry, valid 4x gun appears every other year. There are more Persian than Turkish. Turkish is a little bit crazy.... even the one in NRA Poor condition listed on gunbroker.com sold near $3000 a month ago. Turkish is probably 8x, or even 12x, or,,, God knows. I have seen more 6-shot and Carbines than Turkish. All of those have about 1000 production volume, the difference is survival rate. But if there is super nice Turkish going over $30K, and super poor Turkish going $3k, then, there are supposed to have more intermediate ones... no reason why this thing could only go to the extreme ends.

Maestro · 12-01-2013, 11:31 PM

i would appreciate clarification on the halo... image A is from your post, image B is one of the untouched mauser, and image C is of the reblued.
is the halo the red arrow in image B? or is this just a double stamp?

cause honestly i can't see a halo in image A, unless i'm not looking in the right place.

Maestro · 12-01-2013, 11:36 PM

Excellent C96 database

: http://www.g6csy.net/c96/database.html

Maestro · 12-01-2013, 11:45 PM

for completeness

Mausers of Turkey and the Ottoman Empire:
http://www.turkmauser.com/models.aspx

The Turkish Mauser Forum:
http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearm...m#.UpwD5eJC9y4

alvin · 12-02-2013, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maestro

is the halo the red arrow in image B? or is this just a double stamp?

cause honestly i can't see a halo in image A, unless i'm not looking in the right place.

No. The arrow pointed area was a little bit overstamping. Not halo. Halo was minor discoloration around the edge of the stamp. Before you get comfortable on this, don't put serious $$ into any of those. There are people faking this type of appearance via micro sand blasting.

The Turkish posted was from Ralph M collection as well. The guy chased "completeness", obviously putting the priority of "completeness" in front of "original". He got quite a few rare items. All sold in March.

With Ralph M, Joe S, and Sturgess sold their collections, I am not sure the high tide of "C96 bulk selling" passed in this decade or not. Maybe not, there are many anonymous collectors... we will see in next few years.

12-01-2013, 02:30 PM	#1
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Just noticed the 1st Persian that you posted from pre98.com. That one is probably OK. But from the picture, at least the bolt stop was refinished. It makes this otherwise good looking piece so unbalanced. It's a huge mistake to put this tiny part into melt mineral although the mineral itself is cheaply available on Brownells. People doing crazy things sometimes. ==== [Edit] Not in hurry, valid 4x gun appears every other year. There are more Persian than Turkish. Turkish is a little bit crazy.... even the one in NRA Poor condition listed on gunbroker.com sold near $3000 a month ago. Turkish is probably 8x, or even 12x, or,,, God knows. I have seen more 6-shot and Carbines than Turkish. All of those have about 1000 production volume, the difference is survival rate. But if there is super nice Turkish going over $30K, and super poor Turkish going $3k, then, there are supposed to have more intermediate ones... no reason why this thing could only go to the extreme ends.

12-01-2013, 11:36 PM	#3
Maestro User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: "Where the streets have no names" Posts: 504 Thanks: 192 Thanked 200 Times in 136 Posts	Excellent C96 database : http://www.g6csy.net/c96/database.html