Scandanavian Holster Modification

This holster modification for use with a American style web belt is typical of a bunch of holsters imported years ago! [I think from Norway..but could be Denmark?] At that time, the guns could not be imported---so, The US got a BUNCH of the holsters as they commanded more $$$$ in the US than anywhere else in the world!


Now, of course, they are being sold as a GI modification.


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The Shadow Knows!

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[Marvin]

Shadow,


You are right as the first one I saw was told to me to be GI modification. I was thirlled to get this until I found out later this was a Norwegian modification. Most of these are nice holsters, but even when repaired back with the belt loops, you can see the hols where the rivits were.


If you just want a nice holster for your pistol, they are very nice to get, especially when they can be purchsed for under $100. As with all other Luger items, buy now and the price will bound to increase. Just my opinion.


Marvin

[lugerholsterrepair]

Shadow, This type of bastardazation is unforgiveable to collectors. Like Marvin says it is virtually unrepairable. Because of where the holes are placed they will always be evident. I convert many of these in my shop back to original configuration and they look pretty decent but they will never be what they once were. When the holes are plugged it camoflages it to some extent but no matter how good the repair is it cannot be done so that you cannot see it. If a person picks up one of these cheaply they wouldn't be a bad deal if you don't mind the holes in the back. I charge $45.00 to convert one of these back to original. Plug the holes and install two new belt loops. Jerry Burney

Might be un-forgivable to those only wanting "pure" German WWII but should be a big plus to those also interested in Post War military use of the Luger and or Scandanavian military arms. I for one am happy they survived at all....most of the stuff did not. I would have been considerate for present day collectors if the Germans had never let anything leave the factory. Then all of this stuff would not show wear and tear, blood pitting, shrapnel damage, and rework to put it back into the line for a second trip into hell or by some capturing nation to continue military use of the item. I've really have never understood why so many collectors who say they are interested in military fireams, don't just collect Comemmoratives because then they can have an un-fired and untouched collection and not something that has been defiled (and heaven forbid, shows less than 95% blue!) by being used in service/combat by some mean ole soldier.

I can sure agree with that!


I understand the agony of trying to repair an item to as close as original, but I do like the history that comes with Lugers.


And boy, you sure as heck can't collect all the different variations, that is for sure!


Ed

I bought a couple of Luger holsters as well as some P.38 ones from Collectors Armoury sveral years ago. They were part of the bunch imported from Norway. I convereted one of the P. 38's to a belt type but am leaving the rest of mine unconverted. I fiqure that if everyone converts theres then I will have some of the Unconverted ones to go with the Norwegian Lugers and P.38's and make a correct Rig.

[lugerholsterrepair]

BCC....I only meant that it is awfully nice to have an original piece that had not been messed with. Of course that is an ideal and not reality. I am a student of history and appreciate why this was done and in reality it makes original holsters more distinctive. Often it covers up important markings and obscures the origin,dates and maker marks. This would be a little less than desirable to most anyone. As for this era, it was after 1945 and consequently less important to some. An occupation force compared to combat use. I think we both have a legitimate viewpoint. Jerry Burney

Jerry, I too understand your point and I did not intend to direct any of my comments to you or your work. I realize that I did play off your first post, but only to say that everything must be looked at (appreciated)in it's context to history. You are correct, right or wrong most collectors are only interested in pre-45 items/condition. I think that the restoration work that you perform is important and I commend your skill and efforts(I have a couple of candidates that I need to talk to you about) also there is nothing wrong with putting these holsters back to orginal configuration.

It is no secret that I feel that military firearms (and militaria) collecting is becomming more and more of a lock step, paint by the numbers endevor. The herd mentality is all too pervasive and although I know I cain't change it back to the good old days when you had to feel your own way and really research items, I don't have to like it. Now it seems that everyone goes by consensus and "textbook" rules (often wrong).

[lugerholsterrepair]

BCC, How true! I too long for how it once was but , times, they are a changin! I try to preserve what can be preserved and putting holsters back to original configuration after a G.I. belt hanger has been installed is something I do quite a bit of. I always try to explain the pro's and con's of the procedure but many people want to make the change. Actually the Germans were constantly modefing holsters throughout the years , starting at the turn of the century with the rteichrevolver holster modifications to P08. WW1 army holsters to Weimar Police holsters and on and on. So this type of thing is a progression. If ever I can give you a hand with any holster work don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks, Jerry Burney