Value range on a couple Lugers

ChrisG43 · 10-13-2011, 12:39 PM

Looked at some Lugers last night, bought a few as well...I'll post those later.

What is the value range (approximation) for an S/42 G date Luger? I should have written down the serial number but didn't. All matching w/ the mag being a "silver" fxo marked mag w/ unnumbered wooden baseplate. I'd say around 95% w/ the strawing turning silverish. Non reblue/Non import.

Second Pistol is a 1940 42 code pistol. Again all matching, but with a mismatched magazine being the only drawback. Probably 93 to 95%. Original bluing, nice strawing...wish I'd grabbed the serial number on that one too, but spaced it....again, non reblue/ non import.

Thanks for the help guys, I know it's only a guesstimation range w/o photos and a little more info... Chris...

Edward Tinker · 10-13-2011, 02:01 PM

Chris, it really is needed for photo's, because your 95% is some folks 85% (really)

And I did not think that they made 'silver' colored FXO's? Should be all blue?

G date could be $500 to $2400

1940/42 could be $500 to $1700

If as you say, more towards the top - non-matching magazines is pretty standard????

JD · 10-13-2011, 03:10 PM

A 1940 luger should not have any strawing at all. Lugers switched to all hot salt blue in 1937 or 1938.

If it has strawed parts, it's a good bet it has been re-blued also......

aptech77 · 10-13-2011, 03:56 PM

Beat me to it. No straw parts on 42's

Edward Tinker · 10-13-2011, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD

A 1940 luger should not have any strawing at all. Lugers switched to all hot salt blue in 1937 or 1938.

If it has strawed parts, it's a good bet it has been re-blued also......

Quote:

Originally Posted by aptech77

Beat me to it. No straw parts on 42's

THUS WHY PICTURES ARE NEEDED

MFC · 10-13-2011, 11:27 PM

Hi Chris,
Like Ed said, FXO mags should have a blued tube AND an aluminum or bakelite (plastic) bottom, not wood. FXO's aren't correct for G dates.

ChrisG43 · 10-15-2011, 03:15 AM

Bad description on my part, I went back tonight and purchased one of the aforementioned Lugers. The 40/42 is correct, and nothing appears to be refinished or strawed. Still didn't have a camera w/ me to take photos unfortunately. I am starting a new thread for some feedback on my G Date Luger which I just acquired, appreciate the feedback.... Thanks, Chris..

ithacaartist · 10-15-2011, 09:26 PM

Ed, I have a mag that is bright, not blued. It is marked fxo, eagle over 37?in two places, and P08. The body is extruded (no seams or double layers) The lips of the mag were formed, in part, by grinding. The unmarked bottom is black-or very close to it- plastic or bakelite., showing a seam/flash from its mold. The bottom is attached with a single pin through the center of its little dished grips. The ends of the pin appear to have been bored out slightly and the resulting rims swaged outward to hold it in place. The body has a fine, lengthwise grain, I presume from the extrusion process, and in the deeper artifacts of this it appears dark, in contrast to the bare steel overall. It does not appear to have very much, if any at all in the way of leftover blued finish, even tucked in next to the bottom.
So, Mr. Tinker, what gives, here? Is this simply a regular fxo mag from which someone has scrubbed the blued finish?

David Parker

Edward Tinker · 10-15-2011, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

Ed, I have a mag that is bright, not blued. It is marked fxo, eagle over 37?in two places, and P08. The body is extruded (no seams or double layers) The lips of the mag were formed, in part, by grinding. The unmarked bottom is black-or very close to it- plastic or bakelite., showing a seam/flash from its mold. The bottom is attached with a single pin through the center of its little dished grips. The ends of the pin appear to have been bored out slightly and the resulting rims swaged outward to hold it in place. The body has a fine, lengthwise grain, I presume from the extrusion process, and in the deeper artifacts of this it appears dark, in contrast to the bare steel overall. It does not appear to have very much, if any at all in the way of leftover blued finish, even tucked in next to the bottom.
So, Mr. Tinker, what gives, here? Is this simply a regular fxo mag from which someone has scrubbed the blued finish?

David Parker

yes

but show pictures if you want to show us something unusual that is not common

ithacaartist · 10-17-2011, 09:28 AM

Thanks, Ed, for an answer that was short but sweet.

10-13-2011, 12:39 PM	#1
ChrisG43 User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Alaska Posts: 60 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 1 Post	Value range on a couple Lugers Looked at some Lugers last night, bought a few as well...I'll post those later. What is the value range (approximation) for an S/42 G date Luger? I should have written down the serial number but didn't. All matching w/ the mag being a "silver" fxo marked mag w/ unnumbered wooden baseplate. I'd say around 95% w/ the strawing turning silverish. Non reblue/Non import. Second Pistol is a 1940 42 code pistol. Again all matching, but with a mismatched magazine being the only drawback. Probably 93 to 95%. Original bluing, nice strawing...wish I'd grabbed the serial number on that one too, but spaced it....again, non reblue/ non import. Thanks for the help guys, I know it's only a guesstimation range w/o photos and a little more info... Chris...

10-13-2011, 02:01 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Chris, it really is needed for photo's, because your 95% is some folks 85% (really) And I did not think that they made 'silver' colored FXO's? Should be all blue? G date could be $500 to $2400 1940/42 could be $500 to $1700 If as you say, more towards the top - non-matching magazines is pretty standard???? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-13-2011, 11:27 PM	#6
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Hi Chris, Like Ed said, FXO mags should have a blued tube AND an aluminum or bakelite (plastic) bottom, not wood. FXO's aren't correct for G dates. __________________ Mike C.

10-15-2011, 03:15 AM	#7
ChrisG43 User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Alaska Posts: 60 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 1 Post	Lugers Bad description on my part, I went back tonight and purchased one of the aforementioned Lugers. The 40/42 is correct, and nothing appears to be refinished or strawed. Still didn't have a camera w/ me to take photos unfortunately. I am starting a new thread for some feedback on my G Date Luger which I just acquired, appreciate the feedback.... Thanks, Chris..

10-13-2011, 03:10 PM	#3
JD User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Western Washington Posts: 107 Thanks: 58 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts	A 1940 luger should not have any strawing at all. Lugers switched to all hot salt blue in 1937 or 1938. If it has strawed parts, it's a good bet it has been re-blued also......

10-13-2011, 03:56 PM	#4
aptech77 User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 85 Thanks: 10 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Beat me to it. No straw parts on 42's

10-15-2011, 09:26 PM	#8
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,288 Thanks: 7,033 Thanked 2,482 Times in 1,323 Posts	Ed, I have a mag that is bright, not blued. It is marked fxo, eagle over 37?in two places, and P08. The body is extruded (no seams or double layers) The lips of the mag were formed, in part, by grinding. The unmarked bottom is black-or very close to it- plastic or bakelite., showing a seam/flash from its mold. The bottom is attached with a single pin through the center of its little dished grips. The ends of the pin appear to have been bored out slightly and the resulting rims swaged outward to hold it in place. The body has a fine, lengthwise grain, I presume from the extrusion process, and in the deeper artifacts of this it appears dark, in contrast to the bare steel overall. It does not appear to have very much, if any at all in the way of leftover blued finish, even tucked in next to the bottom. So, Mr. Tinker, what gives, here? Is this simply a regular fxo mag from which someone has scrubbed the blued finish? David Parker

10-17-2011, 09:28 AM	#10
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,288 Thanks: 7,033 Thanked 2,482 Times in 1,323 Posts	Thanks, Ed, for an answer that was short but sweet.