Buckle,device,decoration

wlyon · 03-20-2011, 02:29 PM

Anyone know 1. what these are? 2. value ?
Thanks, Bill

Ron Smith · 03-20-2011, 03:03 PM

Bill,

Someone more knowledgeable may correct me, but I believe that is a "Political Leader" buckle. If so they are worth $150.00 - $175.00 from what I have seen. The small white wings are Luftwaffe collar devices / rank insignia. The cross is a "Merit Cross" First Class(?), not sure of value.

Ron

G.T. · 03-20-2011, 04:19 PM

Hi Bill, Don't know the value, but I'd be interested in the war merit cross, if you're in the mood to sell or trade???

...Let me know... Best to you, til...lat'r....GT

alanint · 03-20-2011, 05:14 PM

The War Merit Cross is for a non-combat recipient. The medals won in battle have swords added. This is for a civilian who aided in the war effort.

wlyon · 03-20-2011, 05:29 PM

Doug
Any idea on the value of the war merit badge? Thanks Bill

lugerholsterrepair · 03-20-2011, 07:17 PM

Bill, here's one with swords listed on craigslist.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...HJCisAPG2t3xAQ

John Pepera · 03-20-2011, 10:41 PM

Bill,

The above cross reference is for a 2nd. class (bronze) with swords.

Your medal is a War Merit Cross 1st. class without swords in it's original, excellent condition case. Approximate value is about $250.- $350. depending on if any code marking on the pin's reverse.

The buckle is a Political Leader. There are two different sizes one each for the service leather and dress brocade belts. Value is about $200.00 for the standard service leather belt and about $500.00 for the slightly smaller brocade belt.

Best regards,

John Pepera

G.T. · 03-20-2011, 11:30 PM

Not scared yet! ....

... Neat stuff... best to all, til...lat'r....GT...

wlyon · 03-20-2011, 11:36 PM

John
Thank you. The only thing on the back is the number 52. Does this mean anything? The buckle part of the political buckle is 65 mm. Bill

alanint · 03-21-2011, 01:33 AM

Agree with John's values. Nice finds, Bill!! (I've never seen a number stamping on a War Merit Cross, not sure what it might add in value). I'm traveling so can't say anything on the Political Leader Buckle

John Pepera · 03-22-2011, 08:30 PM

Bill,

The # '52' on the reverse is the manufacturer's code number used instead of their company name. It's not unusual to see these numbers on the reverse but to a collector, an added asset. Your piece appears to be a nice example and as said, is in an excellent condition case so I would estimate the value at around $350.

The Political Leader's buckle is the more common, larger size and it also appears to be in excellent condition so the value is in the area of $200. - $250.

Best,

John

03-20-2011, 02:29 PM	#1
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,655 Thanks: 3,212 Thanked 2,619 Times in 971 Posts	Buckle,device,decoration Anyone know 1. what these are? 2. value ? Thanks, Bill Attached Thumbnails __________________ Bill Lyon

03-20-2011, 03:03 PM	#2
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Bill, Someone more knowledgeable may correct me, but I believe that is a "Political Leader" buckle. If so they are worth $150.00 - $175.00 from what I have seen. The small white wings are Luftwaffe collar devices / rank insignia. The cross is a "Merit Cross" First Class(?), not sure of value. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

03-20-2011, 04:19 PM	#3
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	War merit cross Hi Bill, Don't know the value, but I'd be interested in the war merit cross, if you're in the mood to sell or trade??? ...Let me know... Best to you, til...lat'r....GT

03-20-2011, 05:29 PM	#5
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,655 Thanks: 3,212 Thanked 2,619 Times in 971 Posts	Doug Any idea on the value of the war merit badge? Thanks Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

03-20-2011, 07:17 PM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Bill, here's one with swords listed on craigslist. http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...HJCisAPG2t3xAQ __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-20-2011, 05:14 PM	#4
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	The War Merit Cross is for a non-combat recipient. The medals won in battle have swords added. This is for a civilian who aided in the war effort.

03-20-2011, 10:41 PM	#7
John Pepera User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 3 Posts	Bill, The above cross reference is for a 2nd. class (bronze) with swords. Your medal is a War Merit Cross 1st. class without swords in it's original, excellent condition case. Approximate value is about $250.- $350. depending on if any code marking on the pin's reverse. The buckle is a Political Leader. There are two different sizes one each for the service leather and dress brocade belts. Value is about $200.00 for the standard service leather belt and about $500.00 for the slightly smaller brocade belt. Best regards, John Pepera

03-20-2011, 11:30 PM	#8
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	War merit cross Not scared yet! ....... Neat stuff... best to all, til...lat'r....GT...

03-20-2011, 11:36 PM	#9
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,655 Thanks: 3,212 Thanked 2,619 Times in 971 Posts	John Thank you. The only thing on the back is the number 52. Does this mean anything? The buckle part of the political buckle is 65 mm. Bill Attached Thumbnails __________________ Bill Lyon

03-21-2011, 01:33 AM	#10
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Agree with John's values. Nice finds, Bill!! (I've never seen a number stamping on a War Merit Cross, not sure what it might add in value). I'm traveling so can't say anything on the Political Leader Buckle

03-22-2011, 08:30 PM	#11
John Pepera User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 3 Posts	Bill, The # '52' on the reverse is the manufacturer's code number used instead of their company name. It's not unusual to see these numbers on the reverse but to a collector, an added asset. Your piece appears to be a nice example and as said, is in an excellent condition case so I would estimate the value at around $350. The Political Leader's buckle is the more common, larger size and it also appears to be in excellent condition so the value is in the area of $200. - $250. Best, John