Did I miss out and should be kicking myself?

Bongos · 02-22-2011, 01:23 PM

I was high bidder on this until the last moment, seeing how the owner really did not know what he was selling, though externally, all of the numbers match, we do not know internally, My thinking was I would bid it as a high end "Shooter" and if it turns out to be a collector... it would be just gravey...

Should I be kicking myself or was it not meant to be...

Also, is that an Orig Mag or aftermarket seen in the pics.. forgive the noob question

It's a DWM 1916
http://www.auctionarms.com/search/di...num=10214703.0

alanint · 02-22-2011, 01:32 PM

Well, the grips are certainly not "right as rain" to use the seller's terminology, nor is the magazine bottom, which is a modern replacement.

I was, however amused at the seller's flare for descriptive terminology;

"The 1916 Erfurt Imperial Acceptance stamp with the cross of peace and the bar of justice is found on the right frame"

sheepherder · 02-22-2011, 04:39 PM

My $.02...It's a good/excellent price for an Erfurt (but it's not an Erfurt); only fair for a DWM; his shipping price is outstanding...$8 to ship???...Wow...

You were right to pass it by...

If he can't tell an Erfurt from a DWM then he can't be depended on for anything else...

Ron Smith · 02-22-2011, 04:45 PM

The grips were made with slow bake brownie mix. You didn't miss out, it's worth about what the winning price was.

"The 1916 Erfurt Imperial Acceptance stamp with the cross of peace and the bar of justice is found on the right frame"

What the hell is that??

lugerholsterrepair · 02-22-2011, 06:06 PM

It can't be a matching pistol for at least 2 reasons...The slow bake brownie mix grips are probably not numbered to the pistol and the sideplate looks like a newer than the pistol part and has no visable number.

IMO it's at best a $600 shooter with either a Swiss mag or a goobered up commercial.

As the fellows so correctly state in the above posts...You were right to pass on it.

jonnyc · 02-22-2011, 07:46 PM

The barrel also seems to have a miss-matched finish.

FNorm · 02-22-2011, 08:48 PM

The mag tube might be the only Erfurt piece there....

FN

lugerholsterrepair · 02-22-2011, 09:52 PM

The mag tube might be the only Erfurt piece there....

Fred..even if it is it's ruined with an extra pin.

Bongos · 02-27-2011, 08:17 PM

thanks for the education guys

02-22-2011, 01:23 PM	#1
Bongos User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orange County,CA Posts: 27 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Did I miss out and should be kicking myself? I was high bidder on this until the last moment, seeing how the owner really did not know what he was selling, though externally, all of the numbers match, we do not know internally, My thinking was I would bid it as a high end "Shooter" and if it turns out to be a collector... it would be just gravey... Should I be kicking myself or was it not meant to be... Also, is that an Orig Mag or aftermarket seen in the pics.. forgive the noob question It's a DWM 1916 http://www.auctionarms.com/search/di...num=10214703.0

02-22-2011, 01:32 PM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Well, the grips are certainly not "right as rain" to use the seller's terminology, nor is the magazine bottom, which is a modern replacement. I was, however amused at the seller's flare for descriptive terminology; "The 1916 Erfurt Imperial Acceptance stamp with the cross of peace and the bar of justice is found on the right frame" Last edited by alanint; 02-22-2011 at 04:57 PM.

02-22-2011, 04:39 PM	#3
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,195 Thanks: 1,411 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	My $.02...It's a good/excellent price for an Erfurt (but it's *not* an Erfurt); only fair for a DWM; his shipping price is outstanding...$8 to ship???...Wow... You were right to pass it by... If he can't tell an Erfurt from a DWM then he can't be depended on for anything else... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

02-22-2011, 04:45 PM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	The grips were made with slow bake brownie mix. You didn't miss out, it's worth about what the winning price was. "The 1916 Erfurt Imperial Acceptance stamp with the cross of peace and the bar of justice is found on the right frame" What the hell is that?? __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

02-22-2011, 06:06 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	It can't be a matching pistol for at least 2 reasons...The slow bake brownie mix grips are probably not numbered to the pistol and the sideplate looks like a newer than the pistol part and has no visable number. IMO it's at best a $600 shooter with either a Swiss mag or a goobered up commercial. As the fellows so correctly state in the above posts...You were right to pass on it. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

02-22-2011, 07:46 PM	#6
jonnyc User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 425 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 34 Posts	The barrel also seems to have a miss-matched finish.

02-22-2011, 08:48 PM	#7
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	The mag tube might be the only Erfurt piece there.... FN Last edited by FNorm; 02-22-2011 at 08:51 PM. Reason: add

02-22-2011, 09:52 PM	#8
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	The mag tube might be the only Erfurt piece there.... Fred..even if it is it's ruined with an extra pin. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

02-27-2011, 08:17 PM	#9
Bongos User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orange County,CA Posts: 27 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	thanks for the education guys