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dukerusty · 01-29-2011, 12:05 PM

I'm new to this forum. How do I start a new post form my User CP? I have a ton of questions about a luger that I just received from my father. Thank you very much.

DavidJayUden · 01-29-2011, 12:25 PM

If I'm understanding you I'd say that you jut log in, select the apporopriate section and select "new topic" and post away. And you can save one step by posting lots of good clear pictures the first time...
Welcome aboard.
dju

Edward Tinker · 01-29-2011, 12:36 PM

I moved your posting to this area.

As said above, include pictures and a good description and we'll help as much as we can.

ed

dukerusty · 01-29-2011, 12:40 PM

I just posted this a second ago.
Hi folks! This is my first post. I'm not totally sure I'm doing this correctly. I just got my first Luger from my father. He was in the Battle of the Bulge. Still doing well at 85. He collected a few guns while he was there but was only able to bring back a few. The one he recently gave me he picked out of creek! It's a DWM with the exact proof markings shown on the forums proof marking #1. It has the B U & G with crowns stamp and the number172,28 on the barrel with the number 128 stamped right below. All the parts are stamped consistantly with the number 28. The only thing apparently missing is the firing pin. It's in decent shape but not "excellent". It has the DWM stamp on the top but no "country" stamp up front. The "witness" mark is clean and straight. He always thought it was from WWII but it's turning out to be much older. I have not taken photos yet but will if anyone is interested in checking it out. I'd like to get a firing pin for it but I don't want to fire it. I'd also like to get an inexpensive holster to protect it. It's been in an old Dutch Masters cigar box for a very long time. Any suggestions or questions would be appreciated, Thanks

Edward Tinker · 01-29-2011, 12:53 PM

Doug, welcome to the forum.

Yes, pictures are a must and/or the serial number. It may be sn 128, if so, that is a very low serial number.

Does it have a grip safety, i.e. the grip has a safety that you push in as you hold the gun in your hand?

And if a 1900, 1906 or 1908 'model' depends on the type of firing pin...

PS: I collect stories like this, have vol II at the printers as i write, if interested, I'd like to add it and any other items to vol III / I give full credit to the original "author" for each story.

Ed

dukerusty · 01-29-2011, 01:08 PM

Yes, it has a grip safety and a side lever safety. If the serial number is the one right below the 172,28 then that's what I have; 128. The 128 also shows up on the stock, up in front of the trigger, right below where the barrel screws in. I will take some photos later today for you to look at. My dad fire a mortar in the Bulge. He was decorated for getting guys out of there before they were completely surrounded. Unfortunately for us but fortunately for him, he has blocked out a lot of what happened. He saw a lot of bad stuff. He went back to Europe for the 50th anniversery of the Bulge. He also has a very interesting diary of those first few days. Photos will be coming soon. Thank you so much for your interest.

tomaustin · 01-29-2011, 05:30 PM

we have some true experts on this board....don't do anything to your luger until you get their guidance.....welcome......tom

dukerusty · 01-29-2011, 07:00 PM

I don't plan on it. I've been watching the antique road show for years and that advice has sunk in. I will take photos tonight and post them tomorrow. I look forward to all suggestions, remarks, etc.. Until then, thank you.

dukerusty · 01-29-2011, 10:49 PM

I will send two photos at a time because they are high res.

dukerusty · 01-29-2011, 10:51 PM

next two

dukerusty · 01-29-2011, 11:04 PM

next two
These two show the barrel and how it's pitted from what must be rust. My Dad has never done any restoration on this since he found it . He figures that he took it apart to see what was wrong with it (no firing pin) after he found it in the creek in Belgium, and cleaned the rust and dirt off with the same oil and rag that he used on his army issued 45 and rifle. He never used and steel brushes or wool on it. Inside the barrel is fairly clean with no pits. I think it could actually fire with a firing pin. I don't have any special desire to fire it and perhaps damage something, or myself!

mrerick · 01-29-2011, 11:09 PM

Can we get a look at the Luger overall, and also any marks on the left, right and top of the receiver?

Marc

dukerusty · 01-29-2011, 11:13 PM

I'll try three.
As bad as it looks, everything moves very nice and smooth. Here you can see the stamped B and U with the crown above. I think thats because my Dad cleaned and oiled it well after he retrieved it out of the creek. He is going to try to identify the German troops and the area where he found it. This may take him awhile. Like I said earlier, his memory of those days SIXTY SEVEN YEARS AGO!! Is not that sharp. We'll see what he comes up with.

dukerusty · 01-29-2011, 11:18 PM

Last two that I currently have. I can provide more and specifics tomorrow. Thanks in advance for your help!

MFC · 01-29-2011, 11:35 PM

Hi Doug
The Luger is a model 1900 Commercial. Very early S#128. 172,28 is the bore size.
Thanks for showing, and please send my thanks to your Dad for his service.

dukerusty · 01-29-2011, 11:36 PM

One more try on the top photo!

dukerusty · 01-29-2011, 11:56 PM

Mike C.
You sound pretty sure. Are you saying that it was manufactured in the year 1900? Was it the 128th Luger made that year? How do you know it's commercial and not military? Could I ever find or make a firing pin? Would I want to? Any idea what country it was manufactured in?
I'll think of more questions after a good night sleep! Thanks!!

Edward Tinker · 01-30-2011, 08:05 AM

It is a MODEL 1900, however if it is sn 128, I would expect that it was made in 1900. You have one of the first ones made, as there was a swiss contract and a commercial contract, so I can't say yours was the 128th made but close. "I don't like how the #128 looks" but I have only seen a few 3 digits.

It is obviously a commercial gun, because that is how they were sold.

You can buy a firing pin from someone, maybe Tom Heller, or on gunbroker.

Its a German Luger, and all were made in Germany (the swiss later made some too).

Ed

dukerusty · 01-30-2011, 01:32 PM

Hello Ed, Thank you for your response. What do you mean exactly when you say "I don't like how the #128 looks"? Is it the out of focus sn# on the front of the gun or the sn# on the bottom of the barrel? I could probably get better (focused) photos if that would help?
I will try to get some better photos.
Thank you very much, Ed

dukerusty · 01-30-2011, 02:06 PM

I just took these photos. What do you think? Thanks!

01-29-2011, 12:36 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	I moved your posting to this area. As said above, include pictures and a good description and we'll help as much as we can. ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-29-2011, 12:40 PM	#4
dukerusty User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: California Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks boys I just posted this a second ago. Hi folks! This is my first post. I'm not totally sure I'm doing this correctly. I just got my first Luger from my father. He was in the Battle of the Bulge. Still doing well at 85. He collected a few guns while he was there but was only able to bring back a few. The one he recently gave me he picked out of creek! It's a DWM with the exact proof markings shown on the forums proof marking #1. It has the B U & G with crowns stamp and the number172,28 on the barrel with the number 128 stamped right below. All the parts are stamped consistantly with the number 28. The only thing apparently missing is the firing pin. It's in decent shape but not "excellent". It has the DWM stamp on the top but no "country" stamp up front. The "witness" mark is clean and straight. He always thought it was from WWII but it's turning out to be much older. I have not taken photos yet but will if anyone is interested in checking it out. I'd like to get a firing pin for it but I don't want to fire it. I'd also like to get an inexpensive holster to protect it. It's been in an old Dutch Masters cigar box for a very long time. Any suggestions or questions would be appreciated, Thanks

01-29-2011, 12:53 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	Doug, welcome to the forum. Yes, pictures are a must and/or the serial number. It may be sn 128, if so, that is a very low serial number. Does it have a grip safety, i.e. the grip has a safety that you push in as you hold the gun in your hand? And if a 1900, 1906 or 1908 'model' depends on the type of firing pin... PS: I collect stories like this, have vol II at the printers as i write, if interested, I'd like to add it and any other items to vol III / I give full credit to the original "author" for each story. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-29-2011, 01:08 PM	#6
dukerusty User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: California Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks boys Yes, it has a grip safety and a side lever safety. If the serial number is the one right below the 172,28 then that's what I have; 128. The 128 also shows up on the stock, up in front of the trigger, right below where the barrel screws in. I will take some photos later today for you to look at. My dad fire a mortar in the Bulge. He was decorated for getting guys out of there before they were completely surrounded. Unfortunately for us but fortunately for him, he has blocked out a lot of what happened. He saw a lot of bad stuff. He went back to Europe for the 50th anniversery of the Bulge. He also has a very interesting diary of those first few days. Photos will be coming soon. Thank you so much for your interest.

01-29-2011, 05:30 PM	#7
tomaustin Lifer X5 Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: texas Posts: 708 Thanks: 87 Thanked 522 Times in 201 Posts	duke, holsters are for show, but not for gun storage.. we have some true experts on this board....don't do anything to your luger until you get their guidance.....welcome......tom

01-29-2011, 12:05 PM	#1
dukerusty User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: California Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	how to post I'm new to this forum. How do I start a new post form my User CP? I have a ton of questions about a luger that I just received from my father. Thank you very much.

01-29-2011, 12:25 PM	#2
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	If I'm understanding you I'd say that you jut log in, select the apporopriate section and select "new topic" and post away. And you can save one step by posting lots of good clear pictures the first time... Welcome aboard. dju

01-29-2011, 07:00 PM	#8
dukerusty User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: California Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I don't plan on it. I've been watching the antique road show for years and that advice has sunk in. I will take photos tonight and post them tomorrow. I look forward to all suggestions, remarks, etc.. Until then, thank you.

01-29-2011, 10:49 PM	#9
dukerusty User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: California Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Luger 1900-1908 ? I will send two photos at a time because they are high res. Attached Thumbnails

01-29-2011, 10:51 PM	#10
dukerusty User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: California Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Luger 1900-1908 ? next two Attached Thumbnails

01-29-2011, 11:04 PM	#11
dukerusty User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: California Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Luger 1900-1908 ? next two These two show the barrel and how it's pitted from what must be rust. My Dad has never done any restoration on this since he found it . He figures that he took it apart to see what was wrong with it (no firing pin) after he found it in the creek in Belgium, and cleaned the rust and dirt off with the same oil and rag that he used on his army issued 45 and rifle. He never used and steel brushes or wool on it. Inside the barrel is fairly clean with no pits. I think it could actually fire with a firing pin. I don't have any special desire to fire it and perhaps damage something, or myself! Attached Thumbnails

01-29-2011, 11:09 PM	#12
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	Can we get a look at the Luger overall, and also any marks on the left, right and top of the receiver? Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

01-29-2011, 11:13 PM	#13
dukerusty User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: California Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Luger 1900-1908 ? I'll try three. As bad as it looks, everything moves very nice and smooth. Here you can see the stamped B and U with the crown above. I think thats because my Dad cleaned and oiled it well after he retrieved it out of the creek. He is going to try to identify the German troops and the area where he found it. This may take him awhile. Like I said earlier, his memory of those days SIXTY SEVEN YEARS AGO!! Is not that sharp. We'll see what he comes up with. Attached Thumbnails

01-29-2011, 11:18 PM	#14
dukerusty User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: California Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Luger 1900-1908 ? Last two that I currently have. I can provide more and specifics tomorrow. Thanks in advance for your help! Attached Thumbnails

01-29-2011, 11:35 PM	#15
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Hi Doug The Luger is a model 1900 Commercial. Very early S#128. 172,28 is the bore size. Thanks for showing, and please send my thanks to your Dad for his service. __________________ Mike C.

01-29-2011, 11:36 PM	#16
dukerusty User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: California Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Luger 1900-1908 ? One more try on the top photo! Attached Thumbnails

01-29-2011, 11:56 PM	#17
dukerusty User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: California Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mike C. You sound pretty sure. Are you saying that it was manufactured in the year 1900? Was it the 128th Luger made that year? How do you know it's commercial and not military? Could I ever find or make a firing pin? Would I want to? Any idea what country it was manufactured in? I'll think of more questions after a good night sleep! Thanks!!

01-30-2011, 08:05 AM	#18
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	It is a MODEL 1900, however if it is sn 128, I would expect that it was made in 1900. You have one of the first ones made, as there was a swiss contract and a commercial contract, so I can't say yours was the 128th made but close. "I don't like how the #128 looks" but I have only seen a few 3 digits. It is obviously a commercial gun, because that is how they were sold. You can buy a firing pin from someone, maybe Tom Heller, or on gunbroker. Its a German Luger, and all were made in Germany (the swiss later made some too). Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-30-2011, 01:32 PM	#19
dukerusty User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: California Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello Ed, Thank you for your response. What do you mean exactly when you say "I don't like how the #128 looks"? Is it the out of focus sn# on the front of the gun or the sn# on the bottom of the barrel? I could probably get better (focused) photos if that would help? I will try to get some better photos. Thank you very much, Ed

01-30-2011, 02:06 PM	#20
dukerusty User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: California Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	New SN # photos on 1900 luger I just took these photos. What do you think? Thanks! Attached Thumbnails