This is pathetic

George Anderson · 01-10-2011, 04:28 PM

...especially coming from the curator of the NRA museum. Take particular note of remarks about why the doughboys went to Europe in 1917.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdM8U...eature=related

lugerholsterrepair · 01-10-2011, 04:40 PM

George..Don't you know this guy? I think you took me to meet him when we went to the NRA Museum by his invitation?
What gives?

Jerry

Norme · 01-10-2011, 04:42 PM

Hi George, It's not often I agree with you, but your right about this guy. It's hard to believe that someone could squeeze so much nonsense into a mere 9 1/2 minutes. Regards, Norm

alanint · 01-10-2011, 04:52 PM

Can some of you advanced collectors post photos of your DWM Mausers for all to see?

Neil Young · 01-10-2011, 04:54 PM

I agree George--that is beyond pitiful. According to him, the G.I.'s must have been crazy to fight and for many, die, for a piece of hardware from the enemy. It is insulting to the war veterans to say that this was their reason for fighting.

In addition, his knowledge of the Luger leaves a bit to be desired.

Neil

lew1 · 01-10-2011, 05:09 PM

I have met the man several times at various shows.

That interview is one of his better ones.

lew1 · 01-10-2011, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Young

I agree George--that is beyond pitiful. According to him, the G.I.'s must have been crazy to fight and for many, die, for a piece of hardware from the enemy. It is insulting to the war veterans to say that this was their reason for fighting.

In addition, his knowledge of the Luger leaves a bit to be desired.

Neil

An understatement

Ice · 01-10-2011, 05:31 PM

Such utter ignorance is appalling, coming from the mouth of the NRA firearms curator. The video should be pulled before it causes further embarrassment.

Charlie

guns3545 · 01-10-2011, 05:33 PM

This is beyond pathetic on so many planes that I hesitiate to start the list.

Its a sad commentary that Phil Schreier seems to be the best that the NRA can field. As a Lifetime Member, I am embarassed for his lack of knowledge and ashamed of the disprespect shown for our veterans and their heroic deeds.

John

mrerick · 01-10-2011, 05:40 PM

Hi, I posted a comment on the video on YouTube and also contacted Mr. Schreier to offer suggestions on his video. We'll see what kind of response I get...

Marc

dalep38 · 01-10-2011, 07:04 PM

9-1/2 minutes way too long I had to shut it off after 3 .... what a bunch of babling nonsense...I know my dad sure didn't fight for souvenirs with the First infantry...although he did come home a few bits of schrapnel heavier...Thank You, Dale

champ7fc · 01-10-2011, 09:36 PM

I do not post much, however after viewing this video I have to say that it is a demonstration of the most absurd. I am sure that my father did not fight the Japanese in the Pacific to collect war trophies, He did however return with shrapnel in his head, I guess you could call that a war trophy. I do not take this as a joke either. The man should be called on his statements. His knowledge of the Luger pistol if representative of his expetise in his position should disqualify him from the position he now holds. That is my two cents worth.

Frank · 01-11-2011, 10:48 AM

Someone should tell him to read some history books AND some books on LUGERS.

What a shame!! And to think he runs the NRA Museum.

guns3545 · 01-11-2011, 12:44 PM

Just revisited the You Tube site to see how many other comments beyond mine were posted and found that most, if not all of the comments had been REMOVED.

How about that? Obviously, we stepped on someone's toes.

I guess the next step is a letter directly to the NRA.

John

lew1 · 01-11-2011, 01:00 PM

Write the directors of the NRA. They have the final authority if they choose to use it.

mrerick · 01-11-2011, 01:07 PM

My constructive comments were removed .So much for their integrity...

Marc

guns3545 · 01-11-2011, 01:34 PM

Sent this Message to the NRA.

BEGIN MESSAGE: "I would really like senior management to read this message but I know it will never get to them.

I am a Life NRA Member and proud of the organization and its work.

But, Phil Schreier's latest interview on You Tube regarding Lugers is an embarrassment to me, the NRA and does not serve the NRM well.

He is inaccurate with respect to Lugers, demeaning of the efforts our valiant veterans made in WWI and WWII and needs a real lesson in history.

When these things were pointed out, the comments on You Tube were censored out by REMOVING them.

Dear leadership of the NRA, you do not censor comment; you remove the offending segment, correct it, and then re-post it. The removal of our criticism of Phil Schreier does not change the FACT that his comments were factually and historically incorrect and to top it off, offensive to veterans.

Please have the courage that I would expect of the NRA, and do the right thing.

Respectfully submitted." EOM

Hopefully something good will come of it. I'll post their reply if one comes.

john

Ice · 01-11-2011, 05:05 PM

The video is now PRIVATE amd all comments were removed. How about an apology for posting utter nonsense on Youtube in the name of the NRA?

Charlie

mrerick · 01-11-2011, 05:58 PM

Actually, if it's been set to "Private" it basically means that the NRA has withdrawn the video from online distribution...

That may indicate that they have recognized the problem!

Marc

lew1 · 01-11-2011, 07:38 PM

No, they are just trying to hide the problem.

01-10-2011, 04:28 PM	#1
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,528 Times in 787 Posts	This is pathetic ...especially coming from the curator of the NRA museum. Take particular note of remarks about why the doughboys went to Europe in 1917. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdM8U...eature=related

01-10-2011, 04:40 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,922 Thanked 3,123 Times in 1,434 Posts	George..Don't you know this guy? I think you took me to meet him when we went to the NRA Museum by his invitation? What gives? Jerry __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-10-2011, 04:54 PM	#5
Neil Young Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Scottsboro, Alabama Posts: 545 Thanks: 559 Thanked 442 Times in 168 Posts	I agree George--that is beyond pitiful. According to him, the G.I.'s must have been crazy to fight and for many, die, for a piece of hardware from the enemy. It is insulting to the war veterans to say that this was their reason for fighting. In addition, his knowledge of the Luger leaves a bit to be desired. Neil __________________ Neil The hurrier I go the behinder I get. Sometimes it takes me all day to get nothing done.

01-10-2011, 05:09 PM	#6
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	I have met the man several times at various shows. That interview is one of his better ones. __________________ charlie

01-10-2011, 05:40 PM	#10
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,907 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,108 Times in 1,509 Posts	Hi, I posted a comment on the video on YouTube and also contacted Mr. Schreier to offer suggestions on his video. We'll see what kind of response I get... Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

01-10-2011, 04:42 PM	#3
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi George, It's not often I agree with you, but your right about this guy. It's hard to believe that someone could squeeze so much nonsense into a mere 9 1/2 minutes. Regards, Norm

01-10-2011, 04:52 PM	#4
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Can some of you advanced collectors post photos of your DWM Mausers for all to see?

01-10-2011, 05:31 PM	#8
Ice User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Thanks: 13 Thanked 69 Times in 57 Posts	Such utter ignorance is appalling, coming from the mouth of the NRA firearms curator. The video should be pulled before it causes further embarrassment. Charlie

01-10-2011, 05:33 PM	#9
guns3545 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 437 Thanks: 655 Thanked 492 Times in 218 Posts	This is beyond pathetic on so many planes that I hesitiate to start the list. Its a sad commentary that Phil Schreier seems to be the best that the NRA can field. As a Lifetime Member, I am embarassed for his lack of knowledge and ashamed of the disprespect shown for our veterans and their heroic deeds. John

01-10-2011, 07:04 PM	#11
dalep38 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southeast USA Posts: 60 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	9-1/2 minutes way too long I had to shut it off after 3 .... what a bunch of babling nonsense...I know my dad sure didn't fight for souvenirs with the First infantry...although he did come home a few bits of schrapnel heavier...Thank You, Dale __________________ Always looking for early P.38's Original finish collector grade ,Zeros,480,ac only,40 added,ac40,ac41's and mags

01-10-2011, 09:36 PM	#12
champ7fc User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Connecticut Posts: 103 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	I do not post much, however after viewing this video I have to say that it is a demonstration of the most absurd. I am sure that my father did not fight the Japanese in the Pacific to collect war trophies, He did however return with shrapnel in his head, I guess you could call that a war trophy. I do not take this as a joke either. The man should be called on his statements. His knowledge of the Luger pistol if representative of his expetise in his position should disqualify him from the position he now holds. That is my two cents worth. __________________ cfm

01-11-2011, 10:48 AM	#13
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Someone should tell him to read some history books AND some books on LUGERS. What a shame!! And to think he runs the NRA Museum.

01-11-2011, 12:44 PM	#14
guns3545 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 437 Thanks: 655 Thanked 492 Times in 218 Posts	Censorship at work Just revisited the You Tube site to see how many other comments beyond mine were posted and found that most, if not all of the comments had been REMOVED. How about that? Obviously, we stepped on someone's toes. I guess the next step is a letter directly to the NRA. John

01-11-2011, 01:00 PM	#15
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	Write the directors of the NRA. They have the final authority if they choose to use it. __________________ charlie

01-11-2011, 01:07 PM	#16
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,907 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,108 Times in 1,509 Posts	My constructive comments were removed .So much for their integrity... Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

01-11-2011, 01:34 PM	#17
guns3545 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 437 Thanks: 655 Thanked 492 Times in 218 Posts	Message to the NRA sent today Sent this Message to the NRA. BEGIN MESSAGE: "I would really like senior management to read this message but I know it will never get to them. I am a Life NRA Member and proud of the organization and its work. But, Phil Schreier's latest interview on You Tube regarding Lugers is an embarrassment to me, the NRA and does not serve the NRM well. He is inaccurate with respect to Lugers, demeaning of the efforts our valiant veterans made in WWI and WWII and needs a real lesson in history. When these things were pointed out, the comments on You Tube were censored out by REMOVING them. Dear leadership of the NRA, you do not censor comment; you remove the offending segment, correct it, and then re-post it. The removal of our criticism of Phil Schreier does not change the FACT that his comments were factually and historically incorrect and to top it off, offensive to veterans. Please have the courage that I would expect of the NRA, and do the right thing. Respectfully submitted." EOM Hopefully something good will come of it. I'll post their reply if one comes. john

01-11-2011, 05:05 PM	#18
Ice User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Thanks: 13 Thanked 69 Times in 57 Posts	The video is now PRIVATE amd all comments were removed. How about an apology for posting utter nonsense on Youtube in the name of the NRA? Charlie

01-11-2011, 05:58 PM	#19
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,907 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,108 Times in 1,509 Posts	Actually, if it's been set to "Private" it basically means that the NRA has withdrawn the video from online distribution... That may indicate that they have recognized the problem! Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

01-11-2011, 07:38 PM	#20
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	No, they are just trying to hide the problem. __________________ charlie