Unusual Marking

Conny · 06-10-2010, 11:20 AM

Gentlemen,
Can anyone identify these marks?

Ron Smith · 06-10-2010, 11:48 AM

Hi Duane,

What are the markings? Hard to make out in the photo. Possibly a proof test gun?

Ron

drbuster · 06-10-2010, 12:01 PM

Interesting that this is on a Navy luger. Randy Bessler has for sale a very similar (same one??) luger. This was at the most recent Reno show. Those present postulated that the marking was some form of Weimar unit mark. Of course, no proof exists!

Ron Smith · 06-10-2010, 12:44 PM

Doc,

They're not Weimar marks that I have ever encountered. I recall reading or seeing something that stated a "V" stamp on the chamber indicated that it was used for Test purposes.

They could be some type of Freikorps markings, but very unusual if so.

Ron

Conny · 06-10-2010, 12:57 PM

Luger is located on this site. It is the one on Besslers web site. I have bought from him before.

http://www.collectorfirearms.org/

Don M · 06-10-2010, 12:59 PM

It doesn't look like any police marking I've seen.

Ron Smith · 06-10-2010, 01:25 PM

Maybe just a coincidence, but the 9mm Parabellum was designated the cartridge 08 and also is known as 9X19. V = Test(?), 8 = 08, 019 = X 19mm. a test pistol for 08 9X19mm ammunition?

Just a WAG on my part, but plausible.

Ron

DavidJayUden · 06-10-2010, 02:49 PM

On a side note, is that a grip safety gun, and if so am I seeing that the top of the safety bar is serrated?
dju

Norme · 06-10-2010, 02:56 PM

Here's a side view from Randy's on line catalog. Regards

drbuster · 06-10-2010, 05:00 PM

I handled this Navy at the Reno show. Randy mentioned that he knew of (or had seen in the past) a similarly marked Navy luger. Ron's learned and logical theory is a good as any!

06-10-2010, 11:20 AM	#1
Conny User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Culpeper, Va. Posts: 279 Thanks: 0 Thanked 26 Times in 13 Posts	Unusual Marking Gentlemen, Can anyone identify these marks? Attached Thumbnails __________________ Rangers Lead the Way, Duane Leiker

06-10-2010, 11:48 AM	#2
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hi Duane, What are the markings? Hard to make out in the photo. Possibly a proof test gun? Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

06-10-2010, 12:44 PM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Doc, They're not Weimar marks that I have ever encountered. I recall reading or seeing something that stated a "V" stamp on the chamber indicated that it was used for Test purposes. They could be some type of Freikorps markings, but very unusual if so. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

06-10-2010, 12:57 PM	#5
Conny User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Culpeper, Va. Posts: 279 Thanks: 0 Thanked 26 Times in 13 Posts	Luger is located on this site. It is the one on Besslers web site. I have bought from him before. http://www.collectorfirearms.org/ __________________ Rangers Lead the Way, Duane Leiker

06-10-2010, 12:59 PM	#6
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	It doesn't look like any police marking I've seen. __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

06-10-2010, 12:01 PM	#3
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Interesting that this is on a Navy luger. Randy Bessler has for sale a very similar (same one??) luger. This was at the most recent Reno show. Those present postulated that the marking was some form of Weimar unit mark. Of course, no proof exists!

06-10-2010, 01:25 PM	#7
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Maybe just a coincidence, but the 9mm Parabellum was designated the cartridge 08 and also is known as 9X19. V = Test(?), 8 = 08, 019 = X 19mm. a test pistol for 08 9X19mm ammunition? Just a WAG on my part, but plausible. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said... Last edited by Ron Smith; 06-10-2010 at 02:35 PM.

06-10-2010, 02:49 PM	#8
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	On a side note, is that a grip safety gun, and if so am I seeing that the top of the safety bar is serrated? dju

06-10-2010, 02:56 PM	#9
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 225 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Here's a side view from Randy's on line catalog. Regards Attached Thumbnails

06-10-2010, 05:00 PM	#10
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	I handled this Navy at the Reno show. Randy mentioned that he knew of (or had seen in the past) a similarly marked Navy luger. Ron's learned and logical theory is a good as any!