Revision of Third Reich Lugers and the Weiss diaries.

Jan C Still · 04-02-2010, 08:14 PM

Revision of Third Reich Lugers and the Weiss diaries.
I have long been in the process of revising/updating the book Third Reich Lugers published in 1988. For many years the information packed August Weiss notes were not available to collectors or authors. It is my understanding that the August Weiss' notes are now in the possession of Joop van de Kant and are being used in the preparation of the book he and Don Hallock are writing covering Mauser Lugers (Don Maus).

The revision /update of Third Reich Lugers is almost complete. Is there any way that the August Weiss notes/diaries could be made available so this revision of Third Reich Lugers can be completed. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Jan

Jan C Still · 04-03-2010, 08:08 PM

I would very much like to gain access to the Weiss notes so I can complete the revision of Third Reich Lugers.

I have made most of my Luger research available to other collectors and authors. Look at the numerous Luger data bases available on the GLCPAP Forum. In my opinion there is a trend toward locking up Luger information in private archives not accessible to most collectors.

Below is a post that I made concerning the Gortz archive.
Joachim Gortz archive to private European collection http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...ighlight=Gortz

“I agree with Klaus, this important Luger information should be made more available to Luger collectors. As it is now, this information may continue to remain in Europe in the hands of a few private collectors for some time.”
Jan

Again with the August Weiss' notes it appears that important Luger information is being stored in private archives accessible to only a small clique of collectors.

Jan

tomaustin · 04-03-2010, 10:38 PM

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Jan C Still · 04-04-2010, 01:27 AM

Tom
It works on the other Forum but not on this Forum. Will try posting it again.
Jan
Joachim Gortz archive to private European collection http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...ighlight=Gortz
Its exactly whats posted on the other Forum but it does not work from this Forum!!!
Jan

Edward Tinker · 04-04-2010, 09:00 AM

what HAPPENS is that the link gets truncated, you go in and edit what you wrote and copy it in again...

alvin · 04-04-2010, 09:25 AM

Maybe current owners of those documents want to publish something as well? Just a guess.

Vlim · 04-04-2010, 11:24 AM

Jan,

Have you contacted Reinhard Kornmayer and Prof. Dr. Rolf Gminder?
Both have useable documentation from the legacy of August Weiss. They have provided other authors with copies of this documentation before.

The famous 'missing diaries' are in the hands of Hans Bert Lockhoven, who is not prepared to share them with anyone (yet).

Hope this helps!

On the Görtz Archive: it is 'only' a photographic reference archive, mainly with copies of photos from other collectors and authors. It is comparable to our own digital archives which we all keep today, but in a paper form. A large part is dedicated to associated things like WW1 vehicles and unit photography.

Another issue is the passing away of Mauser expert Walter Schmid a couple of months ago (late 2009). Here again it is important to keep his life's work together and to prevent it from scattering around the globe. It is one of the issues that will be discussed in an upcoming meeting at Oberndorf this summer. I agree with Jan that burying info in the private stash of advanced collectors is never a good thing.

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Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts	Revision of Third Reich Lugers and the Weiss diaries. *Revision of Third Reich Lugers and the Weiss diaries.* I have long been in the process of revising/updating the book *Third Reich Lugers* published in 1988. For many years the information packed August Weiss notes were not available to collectors or authors. It is my understanding that the August Weiss' notes are now in the possession of Joop van de Kant and are being used in the preparation of the book he and Don Hallock are writing covering Mauser Lugers (Don Maus). The revision /update of *Third Reich Lugers* is almost complete. Is there any way that the August Weiss notes/diaries could be made available so this revision of *Third Reich Lugers* can be completed. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Jan

04-03-2010, 08:08 PM	#2
Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts	I would very much like to gain access to the Weiss notes so I can complete the revision of *Third Reich Lugers. I have made most of my Luger research available to other collectors and authors. Look at the numerous Luger data bases available on the GLCPAP Forum. In my opinion there is a trend toward locking up Luger information in private archives not accessible to most collectors. Below is a post that I made concerning the Gortz archive. Joachim Gortz archive to private European collection http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...ighlight=Gortz “I agree with Klaus, this important Luger information should be made more available to Luger collectors. As it is now, this information may continue to remain in Europe in the hands of a few private collectors for some time.” Jan Again with the August Weiss' notes it appears that important Luger information is being stored in private archives accessible to only a small clique of collectors. Jan Last edited by Jan C Still; 04-04-2010 at 01:22 AM.*

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tomaustin Lifer X5 Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: texas Posts: 708 Thanks: 87 Thanked 522 Times in 201 Posts	jan, that link did not work....tom ..

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,924 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,518 Times in 2,087 Posts	what HAPPENS is that the link gets truncated, you go in and edit what you wrote and copy it in again... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-04-2010, 01:27 AM	#4
Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts	Tom It works on the other Forum but not on this Forum. Will try posting it again. Jan Joachim Gortz archive to private European collection http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...ighlight=Gortz Its exactly whats posted on the other Forum but it does not work from this Forum!!! Jan

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alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Maybe current owners of those documents want to publish something as well? Just a guess.

04-04-2010, 11:24 AM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,987 Times in 1,205 Posts	Jan, Have you contacted Reinhard Kornmayer and Prof. Dr. Rolf Gminder? Both have useable documentation from the legacy of August Weiss. They have provided other authors with copies of this documentation before. The famous 'missing diaries' are in the hands of Hans Bert Lockhoven, who is not prepared to share them with anyone (yet). Hope this helps! On the Görtz Archive: it is 'only' a photographic reference archive, mainly with copies of photos from other collectors and authors. It is comparable to our own digital archives which we all keep today, but in a paper form. A large part is dedicated to associated things like WW1 vehicles and unit photography. Another issue is the passing away of Mauser expert Walter Schmid a couple of months ago (late 2009). Here again it is important to keep his life's work together and to prevent it from scattering around the globe. It is one of the issues that will be discussed in an upcoming meeting at Oberndorf this summer. I agree with Jan that burying info in the private stash of advanced collectors is never a good thing.