Dutch Lugers usually have rust on them.

Hugo Borchardt · 01-07-2010, 02:17 PM

Can't remember whose signature says that, but:

I was examining a Dutch luger for sale this weekend, and
after spending almost a year on this forum, I finally got the double entendre!

Norme · 01-07-2010, 02:25 PM

That would be Vlim, our resident Nederlander.

Edward Tinker · 01-07-2010, 04:38 PM

I lived in der Nederlands for 7 yrs and it took me a few times before I got it

saab-bob · 01-07-2010, 09:03 PM

Dutch Lugers usually have rust on them.

I always thought this was true due to the storage areas being very damp,like below sea level!

Bob

Vlim · 01-08-2010, 04:59 PM

Quote:

i was examining a dutch luger for sale this weekend, and
after spending almost a year on this forum, i finally got the double entendre!

lmao

sheepherder · 01-09-2010, 09:22 PM

I had to Search a pic of a Dutch Luger...Now I get it...

Do any other Dutch pistols/rifles have rust on them???

Vlim · 01-10-2010, 11:22 AM

A good question and I have to admit I don't really know...never bothered to check....

In the Dutch army the phrase 'Rust' (which literally translated means rest as in resting, not as in 'the rest') is still used for the command 'at ease'.

FNorm · 01-10-2010, 11:32 AM

Is that pronounced rust with a short u, or Roost with a long one? Or somewhere in between?

FN

Vlim · 01-10-2010, 11:41 AM

With the short u. It's pronounced exactly like the English rust.

The Dutch word for the English rust (as in oxidation) is pronounced as 'roost' (roest), however.

There is a saying 'Rust Roest' (translated as 'rest rusts', basically meaning that not using something will lead to its decay). This ends the Dutch lesson for today

sheepherder · 01-10-2010, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim

In the Dutch army the phrase 'Rust' (which literally translated means rest as in resting, not as in 'the rest') is still used for the command 'at ease'.

Vlim -

Were you in the Dutch Army??? What weapons does the typical Dutch soldier use/carry???

Vlim · 01-10-2010, 07:22 PM

Andy,

My brilliant military career was the result of being drafted when they were still able to draft us (stopped now). So I spent a year in military service during 1990-1991 learning to drive a DAF YA4440 4x4 truck and becoming a radio/telex operator. After training, since we were temporarily out of enemies (main focus on the pre 1990 days was on the DDR / Eastern Block threat), mainly being bored and doing guard duty (with an Uzi

).

4x4 offroad driving was fun and I did own a couple of 4x4s as a result. Still want to buy myself one of those DAF trucks, but they're still expensive and a bit difficult to store.

In those days the guns of choice were the FN HP, UZI and FAL rifle.

Nowadays it's the usual kit, Glock 17, Diemaco M16 clone, Minime, MAG machineguns.
The Uzi was phased out in 1998.

sheepherder · 01-10-2010, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim

...I spent a year in military service during 1990-1991 learning to drive a DAF YA4440 4x4 truck and becoming a radio/telex operator...In those days the guns of choice were the FN HP, UZI and FAL rifle...

I spent two years active duty 1969-1971 trained as a truck mechanic, but I spent more time as a driver...5 ton cargo trucks & M151 jeeps...We were armed with M1911A1 pistols, M14/M16 rifles, M60 LMG's, M2 HMG's...The M14 was phased out as I transitioned from boot camp to Infantry Training Regiment...

Our trucks were turbo-supercharged multi-fuel inline 6 cyl 10x10's...I don't think I'd really want one now...Here's a pic...

There was another version with smaller axle bearings & suspension, but the same body/drivetrain (minus turbocharger) called the "Deuce and a Half"...It had only a max rating of 2 1/2 tons as opposed to our 5 tons...

Piet · 01-13-2010, 02:11 PM

Spot the difference! Magirus Deutz, 6x6 gun tractor

Piet

Vlim · 01-14-2010, 07:48 AM

Nice.

In my days the small 4x4 jeeps were Land Rovers. Just missed the introduction of the G-Class Mercedes-Benz jeeps in those days

Did own a couple of them, very good offroaders and complete rust buckets as well (the Mercs). The Land Rovers didn't really rust, they decomposed.

sheepherder · 01-14-2010, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piet

Spot the difference! Magirus Deutz, 6x6 gun tractor

Piet

Piet -

Are the rear wheels really "singles", or duals???

The bearing caps look like 5-ton hubs; but with single wheels, the truck would be overloaded (wheel/tire-wise)...

I mentioned the 5-tonners we had were called 10x10's, because over here the classification is "10 wheels on the ground; 10 wheels driving"...Direct-drive dualies on the rear; sprag-driven front singles...

No heaters in them; canvas cab covers; wipers ineffective; no lockable ignition (On/Off switch); seats padded with old rags; no synchromesh (double-clutch every shift); and no way to get spare parts in the civilian market...

Vlim · 01-14-2010, 09:35 AM

That's why I prefer German tanks nowadays

01-07-2010, 02:17 PM	#1
Hugo Borchardt User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 372 Thanks: 340 Thanked 143 Times in 48 Posts	Dutch Lugers usually have rust on them. Can't remember whose signature says that, but: I was examining a Dutch luger for sale this weekend, and after spending almost a year on this forum, I finally got the double entendre! __________________ My militaria collection is dedicated to the memory of my Grandfather, Marine Gunnery Sergeant Dave Hill, Jr., wounded in action at The Assault of the Second Marine Division on Betio Island, Tarawa Atoll, 20-23 November, 1943. http://www.tarawa1943.com/pages/casualties%20tarawa.htm

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01-10-2010, 11:22 AM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	A good question and I have to admit I don't really know...never bothered to check.... In the Dutch army the phrase 'Rust' (which literally translated means rest as in resting, not as in 'the rest') is still used for the command 'at ease'.

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01-10-2010, 11:41 AM	#9
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	With the short u. It's pronounced exactly like the English rust. The Dutch word for the English rust (as in oxidation) is pronounced as 'roost' (roest), however. There is a saying 'Rust Roest' (translated as 'rest rusts', basically meaning that not using something will lead to its decay). This ends the Dutch lesson for today

01-10-2010, 07:22 PM	#11
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Andy, My brilliant military career was the result of being drafted when they were still able to draft us (stopped now). So I spent a year in military service during 1990-1991 learning to drive a DAF YA4440 4x4 truck and becoming a radio/telex operator. After training, since we were temporarily out of enemies (main focus on the pre 1990 days was on the DDR / Eastern Block threat), mainly being bored and doing guard duty (with an Uzi ). 4x4 offroad driving was fun and I did own a couple of 4x4s as a result. Still want to buy myself one of those DAF trucks, but they're still expensive and a bit difficult to store. In those days the guns of choice were the FN HP, UZI and FAL rifle. Nowadays it's the usual kit, Glock 17, Diemaco M16 clone, Minime, MAG machineguns. The Uzi was phased out in 1998.

01-14-2010, 07:48 AM	#14
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Nice. In my days the small 4x4 jeeps were Land Rovers. Just missed the introduction of the G-Class Mercedes-Benz jeeps in those days Did own a couple of them, very good offroaders and complete rust buckets as well (the Mercs). The Land Rovers didn't really rust, they decomposed.