Info request on a Luger at auction

Jasta2 · 12-27-2009, 04:21 PM

Sorry ED, I need to learn how to direct link. Request imput on a 1912 DWM listed on Auction Arms #9496593. Why would the military proofs be defaced and some of the unit mark be defaced? Could this have been done at a unit level? and can the unit be made out. This is the first Luger I've seen with the unit placed in such a fasion. Was this common? Alway trying to learn more!
Tks,Bill

Don M · 12-27-2009, 05:54 PM

Link - http://www.auctionarms.com/search/di...temnum=9496593

alvin · 12-27-2009, 07:54 PM

Wow! In this shape still asking 4-digit.....

Jasta2 · 12-29-2009, 11:16 AM

Anyone make out the unit markings? Again, was this placement of a unit mark often used? Wonder why someone would go to the point of defacing the imperial proofs?
Bill

George Anderson · 12-29-2009, 12:38 PM

It is not a common location for an Imperial marking but not unheard of either. I would interpret the markings as III.M.G.K. (orA.) R.J.R.74. If the third letter is an "A" it would probably indicate III. Machine Gun Abteilung. The roman numeral III makes it difficult to read as normally a roman numeral designator will only apply to a battalion or an Army Corps. Neither if tese are possibilities as the 74th Reserve Division was part of the X. corps and there were no MG battalions.

The markings were probably obliterated in Germany by whoever took it home after the war.

12-27-2009, 04:21 PM	#1
Jasta2 User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lakeland, Fl. Posts: 514 Thanks: 349 Thanked 101 Times in 52 Posts	Info request on a Luger at auction Sorry ED, I need to learn how to direct link. Request imput on a 1912 DWM listed on Auction Arms #9496593. Why would the military proofs be defaced and some of the unit mark be defaced? Could this have been done at a unit level? and can the unit be made out. This is the first Luger I've seen with the unit placed in such a fasion. Was this common? Alway trying to learn more! Tks,Bill

12-27-2009, 05:54 PM	#2
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	Link - http://www.auctionarms.com/search/di...temnum=9496593 __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

12-29-2009, 11:16 AM	#4
Jasta2 User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lakeland, Fl. Posts: 514 Thanks: 349 Thanked 101 Times in 52 Posts	Anyone make out the unit markings? Anyone make out the unit markings? Again, was this placement of a unit mark often used? Wonder why someone would go to the point of defacing the imperial proofs? Bill

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alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Wow! In this shape still asking 4-digit.....

12-29-2009, 12:38 PM	#5
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	It is not a common location for an Imperial marking but not unheard of either. I would interpret the markings as III.M.G.K. (orA.) R.J.R.74. If the third letter is an "A" it would probably indicate III. Machine Gun Abteilung. The roman numeral III makes it difficult to read as normally a roman numeral designator will only apply to a battalion or an Army Corps. Neither if tese are possibilities as the 74th Reserve Division was part of the X. corps and there were no MG battalions. The markings were probably obliterated in Germany by whoever took it home after the war.