Decent "shooter"?

Frat Boy · 10-19-2009, 12:11 PM

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Ron Smith · 10-19-2009, 12:59 PM

Mark,

With the economy the way it is, I would look around. I think it's at maximum a $500 pistol, in my opinion...

Ron

Ron Smith · 10-19-2009, 01:25 PM

Mark,

Fire a $600 shot at this one (see link). It's got reblued parts, but all in all not a bad gun. It needs grip screws, and one grip panel, but Tom Heller 'lugerdoc' can help you out with them at a reasonable price, I'm sure. Also, the frame is an early pre-1913 Imperial without the stock lug, or it has been removed. Ask the seller some questions and ask about the bore condition.

http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction...Item=143819572

Ron

alanint · 10-19-2009, 01:52 PM

Ron,
The pistol shown HAS a stock lug??

wlyon · 10-19-2009, 01:52 PM

Mark
I agree with Ron,offer $600 if the bore is good! Also it does have the stock lug. Ron is getting old and his eyesight is not what it once was. With my magnifing glass I could clearly see the stock lug. Bill

(Alanint beat me)

Ron Smith · 10-19-2009, 02:04 PM

Hey guys,

I may be old, but if this has a stock lug....? I'm refering to the one that I recommended in the link.

LINK >>>> http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction...Item=143819572

Ron

wlyon · 10-19-2009, 02:19 PM

Ron

Oh !! that luger. Couldn't quite read your reference. Bill

Mark

I agree a much better choice. Bill

Ron Smith · 10-19-2009, 02:23 PM

Hi Bill,

They all start looking a like after a few years.

"Ha! You guys kill me."

Mark,

The Ward gets kind of hectic on Mondays. What with the Medication shortage and all...

Ron

jarrodlugerp08 · 10-19-2009, 03:14 PM

thats a nice luger for a shooter id say is a good deal for 600 700 but the grips look a little fake ,, hey i see you live in louisiana ,, im in new orleans looking to get rid of a luger for a pretty cheap price because of economic times... ive shot it a few times but i wouldnt say its a shooter because its all matching parts etc. from 1941 .. i got a pic if u wanna look

Edward Tinker · 10-19-2009, 03:15 PM

A bore can be in "poor" condition and still shoot very well. Obviously a nicer bore is best, but I personally don't believe that 'frosting" / "slight pitting" is going to be seen by the average shooter / plinker.

Ed

Ron Smith · 10-19-2009, 03:23 PM

"Anyway, do I really need stock lugs on a non-collectable plinker?"

Mark,

Not at all. In fact they are useless on a 4" Luger anyway, since it's illegal to attach a stock to one.

I was just pointing it out as a bargaining chip. It isn't the original frame to a 1921 dated Luger, whether the seller claims it matches or not.

Ron

Ron Smith · 10-23-2009, 04:30 PM

Mark,

Got a link?

Ron

Ron Smith · 10-23-2009, 05:13 PM

Mark,

If you like it? Give it a bid, but I'll bet his reserve is going to be more than $600. Although it shouldn't be.

Ron

Ron Smith · 10-23-2009, 06:00 PM

Mark,

I do like the 1921 better, but it's just my preference. Mainly because, although it has some refinished parts. It is more original than the Bulgarian. If you can get the other one for your price, by all means, bid on it. I'm not trying to persuade you, just offering my advice, which is worth extactly Zitlch to anyone but me.

Ron

10-19-2009, 12:11 PM	#1
Frat Boy User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Decent "shooter"? Deleted Last edited by Frat Boy; 11-06-2009 at 11:29 PM.

10-19-2009, 12:59 PM	#2
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Mark, With the economy the way it is, I would look around. I think it's at maximum a $500 pistol, in my opinion... Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

10-19-2009, 01:25 PM	#3
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Mark, Fire a $600 shot at this one (see link). It's got reblued parts, but all in all not a bad gun. It needs grip screws, and one grip panel, but Tom Heller 'lugerdoc' can help you out with them at a reasonable price, I'm sure. Also, the frame is an early pre-1913 Imperial without the stock lug, or it has been removed. Ask the seller some questions and ask about the bore condition. http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction...Item=143819572 Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said... Last edited by Ron Smith; 10-19-2009 at 02:11 PM.

10-19-2009, 01:52 PM	#5
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,627 Thanks: 3,165 Thanked 2,546 Times in 951 Posts	Mark I agree with Ron,offer $600 if the bore is good! Also it does have the stock lug. Ron is getting old and his eyesight is not what it once was. With my magnifing glass I could clearly see the stock lug. Bill (Alanint beat me) __________________ Bill Lyon

10-19-2009, 02:04 PM	#6
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hey guys, I may be old, but if this has a stock lug....? I'm refering to the one that I recommended in the link. LINK >>>> http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction...Item=143819572 Ron Attached Thumbnails __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

10-19-2009, 01:52 PM	#4
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Ron, The pistol shown HAS a stock lug??

10-19-2009, 02:19 PM	#7
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,627 Thanks: 3,165 Thanked 2,546 Times in 951 Posts	Ron Oh !! that luger. Couldn't quite read your reference. Bill Mark I agree a much better choice. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

10-19-2009, 02:23 PM	#8
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hi Bill, They all start looking a like after a few years. "Ha! You guys kill me." Mark, The Ward gets kind of hectic on Mondays. What with the Medication shortage and all... Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

10-19-2009, 03:14 PM	#9
jarrodlugerp08 User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thats a nice luger for a shooter id say is a good deal for 600 700 but the grips look a little fake ,, hey i see you live in louisiana ,, im in new orleans looking to get rid of a luger for a pretty cheap price because of economic times... ive shot it a few times but i wouldnt say its a shooter because its all matching parts etc. from 1941 .. i got a pic if u wanna look

10-19-2009, 03:15 PM	#10
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	A bore can be in "poor" condition and still shoot very well. Obviously a nicer bore is best, but I personally don't believe that 'frosting" / "slight pitting" is going to be seen by the average shooter / plinker. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-19-2009, 03:23 PM	#11
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	"Anyway, do I really need stock lugs on a non-collectable plinker?" Mark, Not at all. In fact they are useless on a 4" Luger anyway, since it's illegal to attach a stock to one. I was just pointing it out as a bargaining chip. It isn't the original frame to a 1921 dated Luger, whether the seller claims it matches or not. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

10-23-2009, 04:30 PM	#12
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Mark, Got a link? Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

10-23-2009, 05:13 PM	#13
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Mark, If you like it? Give it a bid, but I'll bet his reserve is going to be more than $600. Although it shouldn't be. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

10-23-2009, 06:00 PM	#14
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Mark, I do like the 1921 better, but it's just my preference. Mainly because, although it has some refinished parts. It is more original than the Bulgarian. If you can get the other one for your price, by all means, bid on it. I'm not trying to persuade you, just offering my advice, which is worth extactly Zitlch to anyone but me. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...