Royal MM34

Douglas Jr. · 05-17-2009, 07:45 AM

Hello everybody!

Here I am with something very unique, recently added to my collection: an automatic pistol Royal MM34. And I must add that I'm happy as a kid with this one. OK, the gun is not in mint condition and saw better days, but as far as I could research up to now it is a very rare bird, and a nice addition to any collection. And it is in LIVE condition (and still kicking!)

These guns were made by a Spanish company called Beistegui Hermanos, who started to made unauthorized copies of the Mauser C96 around 1927, mostly aiming the Chinese market. Astra ("Unceta Co.") followed them with the model 900 series. In 1931 Beistegui introduced a version of its pistol with a select-fire switch, allowing to use the gun as a submachine gun.

However, polical issues arise and most of the production of automatic pistols was halted by the Spanish Republican Government in 1931. Only a small production was allowed to suply foreign customers (Chinese war lords, mostly) but, in 1934 the Guardia Civil requested a select-fire gun with a slower rate of fire, so the next two Astras - the experimental Model 904, and the big order for the Guardia, the Model F - had such a mechanism. These were all made in 1934 and 1935.

Beistegui introduced the MM34 about at the same time, with a similar retarding mechanism but adding a switch to select various cyclic rates. Another interesting feature was the disctinctive barrel. This gun had dettachable magazines, using the same mags as the German Mauser Schnellfeuer.

By 1935, the political situation in Spain had continued to deteriorate, though not yet to the point of open warfare, and the financial squeeze on manufacturers continued. The Beistegui brothers, clearly suffering since 1931, finally abandoned the gun business altogether, after making only a few hundred specimens of their new MM34. The brothers appeared again after the end of the Civil War, but this time making bicycles.

According to some old-timer gun collectors in my country, these guns made its way to here, after be purchased by the Rio Grande do Sul's State Law Enforcement, but as the political situation was instable at that State, Federal Government confiscated many of the guns and issued them to other States Police Departments (mainly in the arid Northeast States), where they served for many years. This particular gun was abandoned (lying inside a metal box) in a obselet gun depot of one of these northern States, when it was bought in an auction. The holster stock was found and bought in another auction in another State, almost 1000 miles away from where the gun was. This gunbears the date letter code "F", which date it as made in 1933...

Well, this is everyhting that I could find about this gun (source: http://www.1896mauser.com/spanish.htm). If you know anything else, please, feel free to add. Any information on this pistol is welcome.

Hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

Greetings,

Douglas

PS: Sorry about the poor pictures, I promise to make more (and better)pictures soon.

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sheepherder · 05-17-2009, 08:53 AM

Hello Douglas Jr!

I saw your pics over at 1896Forums yesterday; it is without a doubt the ugliest M1896 clone I've ever seen!!!

But I am fascinated by the ingenuity of those Eibar (I think Beistegui is in Eibar province?) artisans who engineered the conversion...

Bigger pics over at -

http://1896mauser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=993

Douglas Jr. · 05-17-2009, 10:07 PM

Postino,

Well the beauty is in the eyes of the beholder!
In fact, Brooms and its derivatives are a case of love it or leave it.
I love them, as you can see.

The picures are exactly the same posted on the other board. You just need to click twice over the pictures here and they will pop-up in the original size.

Douglas

rolandtg · 05-19-2009, 11:24 PM

That's really nice. Really nice pictures.

It's like Beistegui Hermanos had a little Thompson envy.

Chris from Minnesota · 05-20-2009, 01:57 AM

That is one sweet looking pistol, love the finned barrel.

lfid · 05-20-2009, 02:08 AM

awesome !!!

thanks for sharing the pictures

han solo would be green with envy

Bill

Steinar · 05-20-2009, 03:11 AM

I have commented on the pistol on the other forum. It's very interesting!

The Royal I have has a three digit number under the lid of the holster/stock, since yours looks identical from the pictures, it would be interesting to hear if you also have these numbers and if they are matching to the pistol's # (mine is not matching to the pistol).

Ice · 05-20-2009, 05:51 AM

Thats an interesting variation. I would love to have it in my collection. The C96 models are as interesting as the Lugers, and with more variations. Thanks for showing.

Charlie

Douglas Jr. · 05-20-2009, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan Kane

I have commented on the pistol on the other forum. It's very interesting!

The Royal I have has a three digit number under the lid of the holster/stock, since yours looks identical from the pictures, it would be interesting to hear if you also have these numbers and if they are matching to the pistol's # (mine is not matching to the pistol).

Morgan,

Thanks for your comments. I'm spreading the news about this purchase as I know this is a rare gun and there aren't many pictures and information around. Information not shared is lost information, right?

When I didn't check the stock carefully, but I can say for sure that the numbers, if present, will not match: the stock was bought by the previous owner from a different source. As I said, the pistol and the stock were 1000 miles apart from each other. I'm still wondering how he did, it was a shot in the dark and he hit it.

Douglas

Steinar · 05-20-2009, 08:59 AM

Douglas; the only thinkable way of 'beating' Jerry's luck finding THE same sideplate.. would be that your stock has my serial number, and yours have mine

Think it's great that you are sharing this gun, makes things much more interesting.

Douglas Jr. · 05-20-2009, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan Kane

Douglas; the only thinkable way of 'beating' Jerry's luck finding THE same sideplate.. would be that your stock has my serial number, and yours have mine

Who knows???

I'm gonna check and will let you know!

Douglas.

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Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	Royal MM34 Hello everybody! Here I am with something very unique, recently added to my collection: an automatic pistol Royal MM34. And I must add that I'm happy as a kid with this one. OK, the gun is not in mint condition and saw better days, but as far as I could research up to now it is a very rare bird, and a nice addition to any collection. And it is in LIVE condition (and still kicking!) These guns were made by a Spanish company called Beistegui Hermanos, who started to made unauthorized copies of the Mauser C96 around 1927, mostly aiming the Chinese market. Astra ("Unceta Co.") followed them with the model 900 series. In 1931 Beistegui introduced a version of its pistol with a select-fire switch, allowing to use the gun as a submachine gun. However, polical issues arise and most of the production of automatic pistols was halted by the Spanish Republican Government in 1931. Only a small production was allowed to suply foreign customers (Chinese war lords, mostly) but, in 1934 the Guardia Civil requested a select-fire gun with a slower rate of fire, so the next two Astras - the experimental Model 904, and the big order for the Guardia, the Model F - had such a mechanism. These were all made in 1934 and 1935. Beistegui introduced the MM34 about at the same time, with a similar retarding mechanism but adding a switch to select various cyclic rates. Another interesting feature was the disctinctive barrel. This gun had dettachable magazines, using the same mags as the German Mauser Schnellfeuer. By 1935, the political situation in Spain had continued to deteriorate, though not yet to the point of open warfare, and the financial squeeze on manufacturers continued. The Beistegui brothers, clearly suffering since 1931, finally abandoned the gun business altogether, after making only a few hundred specimens of their new MM34. The brothers appeared again after the end of the Civil War, but this time making bicycles. According to some old-timer gun collectors in my country, these guns made its way to here, after be purchased by the Rio Grande do Sul's State Law Enforcement, but as the political situation was instable at that State, Federal Government confiscated many of the guns and issued them to other States Police Departments (mainly in the arid Northeast States), where they served for many years. This particular gun was abandoned (lying inside a metal box) in a obselet gun depot of one of these northern States, when it was bought in an auction. The holster stock was found and bought in another auction in another State, almost 1000 miles away from where the gun was. This gunbears the date letter code "F", which date it as made in 1933... Well, this is everyhting that I could find about this gun (source: http://www.1896mauser.com/spanish.htm). If you know anything else, please, feel free to add. Any information on this pistol is welcome. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Greetings, Douglas PS: Sorry about the poor pictures, I promise to make more (and better)pictures soon.

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sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,197 Thanks: 1,416 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	Hello Douglas Jr! I saw your pics over at 1896Forums yesterday; it is without a doubt the ugliest M1896 clone I've ever seen!!! But I am fascinated by the ingenuity of those Eibar (I think Beistegui is in Eibar province?) artisans who engineered the conversion... Bigger pics over at - http://1896mauser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=993

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Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	Postino, Well the beauty is in the eyes of the beholder! In fact, Brooms and its derivatives are a case of love it or leave it. I love them, as you can see. The picures are exactly the same posted on the other board. You just need to click twice over the pictures here and they will pop-up in the original size. Douglas

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rolandtg User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 479 Thanks: 389 Thanked 265 Times in 114 Posts	That's really nice. Really nice pictures. It's like Beistegui Hermanos had a little Thompson envy.

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Chris from Minnesota User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 58 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Nice Pistol That is one sweet looking pistol, love the finned barrel.

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lfid Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wichita, KS USA Posts: 453 Thanks: 573 Thanked 96 Times in 53 Posts	awesome !!! thanks for sharing the pictures han solo would be green with envy Bill

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Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	I have commented on the pistol on the other forum. It's very interesting! The Royal I have has a three digit number under the lid of the holster/stock, since yours looks identical from the pictures, it would be interesting to hear if you also have these numbers and if they are matching to the pistol's # (mine is not matching to the pistol). __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

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Ice User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Thanks: 13 Thanked 69 Times in 57 Posts	Thats an interesting variation. I would love to have it in my collection. The C96 models are as interesting as the Lugers, and with more variations. Thanks for showing. Charlie

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Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	Douglas; the only thinkable way of 'beating' Jerry's luck finding THE same sideplate.. would be that your stock has my serial number, and yours have mine Think it's great that you are sharing this gun, makes things much more interesting. __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane