Vis Radom P.35 Value

[Chris from Minnesota]

I do not know much about the Vis Radom other than what I've read on this forum. I have a chance at buying one from a guy that inherited it from his father who brought it back from WWII. He stated that the bluing was in good to very good condition and that there was a chip out of one of the grip panels and it has German acceptance stamps.

Was wondering if anyone on this forum would have an idea as to a fair ball park value for a Vis Radom P.35. I know that without more info it's hard to put a price on one but I was thinking of offering around $300.00 to $400.00. Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Chris

[Chris from Minnesota]

I guess you can disregard the above question as I have answered my question, anywhere from a hundred to thousands. It will be interesting to see it, weather or not I will be able to buy it is another question.

[jonnyc]

I think you can narrow it a bit to $400 to $1000-ish. Unless it's a very rare model you should be able to offer a fair price in that range. Your limited info says it's not an early "Eagle" or a late "bnz".

[Chris from Minnesota]

Thanks for the info jonnyc.

I was able talk to him on the phone and it sound to be a Type III that has the take down lever removed. As he stated that it only had two levers on it and the grips are plastic so I don't think it would be Steyr made. It also has a holster with it, don't know how many mags.

From what I gather he's looking to sell it to someone that would appreciate it, as it has been in his family since his father brought it back from WWII, also there are two other guys interested in it too. I don't know when I'll get too look at it first hand but I have an ideal of what I'm willing to pay depending on condition.

Weather I buy this pistol or not it's nice to have the opportunity at buying a bring back from the actual family who's father brought it back.

[jonnyc]

The holster and any extra mags are big pluses. If there are others, you don't want to get stuck in a bidding war. I guess make an honest offer and be happy with the result.
Good luck. They are great shooters.

[Chris from Minnesota]

This all started with a call from an FFL that does transfers for me and end in a parking lot, not the best place to conduct this type of business.

Anyway when I talk to him on the phone he said that there where only two levers on the side of the pistol. I was surprised too see that there were three levers and the shoulder stock cut in the main spring housing. After some negotiation I was able to walk away with it for $700.00.

The barrel is mirror shinny with no pitting the outer finish only has holster wear. The only problems that I can see with it is that the right grip panel is has a large chip broken off the bottom and the screw is missing. I am now in the market for some original grip panels and a grip screw if anyone has these or know where I could find any I would greatly appreciate it.

The only marks I found on the holster is a blue ink stamp P 35, I didn't find any German acceptance stamps on the mag.

[sheepherder]

That is pretty neat, especially with the mainspring housing cut for the shoulder stock. The Radom is sometimes called a modernized Colt m1911.

Numrich lists the grips available for $26.40, although there are two different screw sizes -

http://www.e-gunparts.com/productsch...z1935%20(P-35)

Nice!

[lugerholsterrepair]

Chris, Congratulations! Nice early German Radom..What is the prefix letter? B? The holster is a plus, $150-200 but the right grip and screw are a big minus. Original grips are real trouble not only to find but authenticate as original. You might be lucky to need only one as pairs are rare, singles pop up more frequently.
NEVER buy anything from Numrich. Everything I have ever received from these people looks like it was made by a caveman.
Now you want to carefully check to see if the pistol is all matching? I suspect it is...Looks to be in excellent condition.
Nice pistol at a fair price.

Jerry Burney

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

NEVER buy anything from Numrich. Everything I have ever received from these people looks like it was made by a caveman.

Jerry - I have to agree; their quality has gone down drastically in the last few years...OK; a decade...

Do you know of any other large firearms dismantlers??? Sarco is another quality-challenged warehouser that I've gotten garbage from fairly recently...

IIRC, Northridge used to get in some odd lots of spares...haven't ordered from them in years, though...

[Chris from Minnesota]

Thanks for all the info guys.

Jerry the suffix and serial number is B1101 same as on the in side of the slide, the barrel only has 101.

Does anyone know about what year this pistol would have been produced? I understand that there are three types in four different groups this pistol being type one group two made after the German occupation.

I'm still very new to collecting but every time I acquire one of these older firearm I'm fascinated by the fit and especially the finish of these firearms. I'm more of a AR15 and HK USP guy, I've been able to sell off a large amount of my AK parts kits and have used that money to acquire some vintage firearms. I can see that more of my modern firearms will be leaving the safe in the future.

[lugerholsterrepair]

Postino, It's difficult to find decent aftermarket stuff. mostly new collectors don't know the difference untill they see an original and that's usually later on. I am surprised Numrich is still in business. They must be the largest purveyor of disapointment since WW2!

Chris, I don't have my books here but I suspect this B block pistol was made in late 39 or early 40. More likely mid 1940. Someone here will know for sure.

Your pistol will have several more serial numbers on it..under the slide, back grip safety etc. They will all have the 101.

Nice gun, I am envious!

Jerry Burney

[Curly1]

Bessler has a set of black originals for $250 http://www.collectorfirearms.org/

[Frank]

Hi Chris, nice pistol!! My best guess for the production of S/N B1101 is about June 1941.

[lugerholsterrepair]

My good Friend Kris Antczak who has taught me most of what I know about Radom pistols says to look at the back. It must be very slick ..a mirror like finish to be original. Look at the back of the grips on your pistol for a likely reference. Unlike some other grips on the market, Radom grips are well faked. One must be careful with these. True, real originals are expensive..

Jerry Burney

[Chris from Minnesota]

Thanks guys the info is limitless on this forum.

I've added some pics of the inside of the grip panels and the insides are very shinny the outer edge that makes contact with the metal of the gun has almost a hatch look, like it was sanded with course sand paper.