Faulty Safety Lever

erndog105 · 05-21-2007, 09:55 PM

I have a 1940 42 that the safety leave continues to fall into the safe position as I shoot it, about every 2-3 rounds. Is this an easy fix or do I need a gun smith?
Thanks for your suggestions.

policeluger · 05-21-2007, 10:05 PM

Check the pin that holds the safety lever in place, under the right grip and top and tucked away inside frame....may have come loose/slid down??? you should tap it up and to the rear in place....you really do not need a gun smith to check this out.

Steinar · 05-22-2007, 04:30 AM

Remember that the pin goes back in place the same way as you puched it out. Do not try to puch it in from the top. (It's kinda hard too see inside there)

Lugerdoc · 05-22-2007, 08:41 AM

Ern, I agree that you may need a slightly larger diameter pin to tighten it up. TH

erndog105 · 05-25-2007, 01:59 PM

Not sure I understand how this pin secures/tightens the safety in place. My pin position is the same as other lugers without the problem. Can you explain how the pin functions? Thanks.

policeluger · 05-25-2007, 02:23 PM

perhaps this pin is a poor fitting replacement pin, does it come out easy, maybe you need a new pin, a wider pin....I take SAE stock and turn it down until it provides a tight fit.....see how easy the pin comes out....you may just need a tighter fitting pin....

erndog105 · 06-02-2007, 09:58 PM

On the gun boards forum, this topic was addressed by "bending in the safety lever in slightly". Does this sound correct? Put it in a vice and bend in.
Scares me.

Ron Wood · 06-02-2007, 11:02 PM

Nobody said put it in a vise and bend. At most you would lay it across a small diameter rod or drill shank and with thumb pressure see if you can put a slight bend in the safety lever, being careful not to overdo it. If it is too hard to bend that way, take it to a gunsmith.

erndog105 · 06-03-2007, 09:05 AM

That is the enty under New Collectors. I like your solution better.

"James,

I have solved this problem by removing the safety lever from the Luger, clamping the long end gently in a wood vise, and applying progressively stronger pressure with my hand on the other end. "

Edward Tinker · 06-03-2007, 09:28 AM

Both answers are correct. It says "clamping gently" and then says "applying pressure with your hand."

Out of context makes it sound melodramatic.

Everything taken into context and a bit of caution and you are fine. Hell, I eat chocholate, my doctor says its bad for me; ...if i eat the entire box in one night...

Ed

PS: I have this problem on a shooter I have, I have never fixed it, too lazy and unsure of what to do

policeluger · 06-03-2007, 11:20 AM

Ed.....you Luger in need of fixin'........know any gun smiths that owe you big time?

Steinar · 06-03-2007, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by erndog105
On the gun boards forum, this topic was addressed by "bending in the safety lever in slightly". Does this sound correct? Put it in a vice and bend in.
Scares me.

It was just a thought that fell down from my head to the keyboard.. since it was a mix-matched Luger, I don't see any harm trying. ..or to see if it could be done.
If it's beyond what you think you can handle yourself, a gunsmith is the natural solution to the problem.

Not sure what you find scary..
Me giving an advice that could potentially harm your Luger or to bend it.
I don't give out many warnings and disclaims to people, if they are reasonable enough to own a pistol, they should be reasonable enough to know their own limits and strength when bending a piece of metal.

Regards from Steinar,
..who get's a little

every time seeing 'wet floor' signs on rainy days and 'Caution, hot coffee'.

erndog105 · 06-08-2007, 04:03 PM

Son of a Gun (pardon the pun) it worked. Thanks for helping a new luger collector out.

jkirkthomas · 06-13-2007, 12:11 AM

Speaking of "Son of a gun," do you know where that expression came from? I read somewhere that in the British Royal Navy, back in the days of wooden ships and iron men, when a warship was in port, each sailor was allowed "one wife, no questions asked." They slung their hammocks betweent he guns, hence the term . . . and the connotations.

And if it isn't true, it ought to be.

Kirk

05-21-2007, 09:55 PM	#1
erndog105 User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 48 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Faulty Safety Lever I have a 1940 42 that the safety leave continues to fall into the safe position as I shoot it, about every 2-3 rounds. Is this an easy fix or do I need a gun smith? Thanks for your suggestions.

05-22-2007, 04:30 AM	#3
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	Remember that the pin goes back in place the same way as you puched it out. Do not try to puch it in from the top. (It's kinda hard too see inside there) __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

05-22-2007, 08:41 AM	#4
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Ern, I agree that you may need a slightly larger diameter pin to tighten it up. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

06-02-2007, 11:02 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,995 Thanks: 1,072 Thanked 5,120 Times in 1,682 Posts	Nobody said put it in a vise and bend. At most you would lay it across a small diameter rod or drill shank and with thumb pressure see if you can put a slight bend in the safety lever, being careful not to overdo it. If it is too hard to bend that way, take it to a gunsmith. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

05-21-2007, 10:05 PM	#2
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Check the pin that holds the safety lever in place, under the right grip and top and tucked away inside frame....may have come loose/slid down??? you should tap it up and to the rear in place....you really do not need a gun smith to check this out.

05-25-2007, 01:59 PM	#5
erndog105 User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 48 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Not sure I understand how this pin secures/tightens the safety in place. My pin position is the same as other lugers without the problem. Can you explain how the pin functions? Thanks.

05-25-2007, 02:23 PM	#6
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	perhaps this pin is a poor fitting replacement pin, does it come out easy, maybe you need a new pin, a wider pin....I take SAE stock and turn it down until it provides a tight fit.....see how easy the pin comes out....you may just need a tighter fitting pin....

06-02-2007, 09:58 PM	#7
erndog105 User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 48 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	On the gun boards forum, this topic was addressed by "bending in the safety lever in slightly". Does this sound correct? Put it in a vice and bend in. Scares me.

06-03-2007, 09:05 AM	#9
erndog105 User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 48 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	That is the enty under New Collectors. I like your solution better. "James, I have solved this problem by removing the safety lever from the Luger, clamping the long end gently in a wood vise, and applying progressively stronger pressure with my hand on the other end. "

06-03-2007, 09:28 AM	#10
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,922 Thanks: 2,002 Thanked 4,513 Times in 2,085 Posts	Both answers are correct. It says "clamping gently" and then says "applying pressure with your hand." Out of context makes it sound melodramatic. Everything taken into context and a bit of caution and you are fine. Hell, I eat chocholate, my doctor says its bad for me; ...if i eat the entire box in one night... Ed PS: I have this problem on a shooter I have, I have never fixed it, too lazy and unsure of what to do

06-03-2007, 11:20 AM	#11
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Ed.....you Luger in need of fixin'........know any gun smiths that owe you big time?

06-08-2007, 04:03 PM	#13
erndog105 User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 48 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Son of a Gun (pardon the pun) it worked. Thanks for helping a new luger collector out.

06-13-2007, 12:11 AM	#14
jkirkthomas User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NC Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Speaking of "Son of a gun," do you know where that expression came from? I read somewhere that in the British Royal Navy, back in the days of wooden ships and iron men, when a warship was in port, each sailor was allowed "one wife, no questions asked." They slung their hammocks betweent he guns, hence the term . . . and the connotations. And if it isn't true, it ought to be. Kirk