~Joe's Items~

Ron Smith · 04-29-2007, 05:23 PM

I just spent a very pleasant couple of hours with my friend Joe Evans who's forum name is "hopscotch". I posted photos of Joe's one and only Luger here not long ago. A 1938 Krieghoff that his uncle captured and passed along to him. He also has a couple of nice Radoms that I failed to photograph.

Here are a couple of items that were also brought back by his uncle. I will let him tell you about them.

Ron

Ron Smith · 04-29-2007, 05:27 PM

He also has a Persian Mauser which he purchased from a well known local Mauser collector and friend, who succumbed to cancer at an early age.

This is probably one of the most pristine Mausers I have ever seen, short of a couple of handling dings. With a matching issue bayonet.

lugerholsterrepair · 04-29-2007, 05:46 PM

Ron, Very cool! Wish you had taken photo's of the Radom's! Beautiful stuff. Jerry Burney

Ron Smith · 04-29-2007, 05:56 PM

Jerry,

I'll try to get back out to his "Country Estate"(running joke), soon and get some photos of the Radoms.

I tried to get a close up of the maker's marks on the glove snap for you to look at, but it didn't come out legible enough to post.

Ron

hopscotch · 04-29-2007, 07:32 PM

The gloves are WW11 German motor cycle that my got uncle got
after the cycle was dstroyed, he was on a tank destroyer. Ron and
I haven't seen any others like these.

The Picklehauben is a Prussian Guard Officer's. This is a mid war and the helmet is Vulcan Fibre which is an early form of plastic. The parade
tricter is either buffalo or yak hair dyed white which is the Prussian color.
The helmet liner is in perfect condition and is silk. Of the cockades, the Imperial is black, white, red. the prussian is black, white. For Ron's info.

The K-98 came from a close friend's estate who had 300+ K-98's plus a lot of other stuff which Ron and I would of liked to have had. It is an "unfired"
Persian with the matching bayonet. At one time, some of them, he had more than one "unfired", had the factory test fire targets. Don't know what happened to the targets. The inscription on the stock says "Infantry" and the serial number is 08870T. Made in Brno in 1309, which is either 1945 or 1935. Not sure of the year transciption.

One Radom hasn't been touched, but one has been reblued with some white repro grips. Actually I kind of like the looks of it. They are both 3 lever.

When Ron gets back out here on his Harley, he can take more pics.

Joe Evans

Ron Wood · 04-29-2007, 07:44 PM

Ron rides a Harley? Why am I not surprised?!

I have a small collection of Pickelhauben and I really am impressed (read extreme lust!) with the Guard Officer helmet.

Ron Smith · 04-29-2007, 10:16 PM

A Garde officer wearing the helmet.

pillboxesghost · 04-30-2007, 06:49 PM

If you guys really want a Brno made Persian long rifle in the condition shown; go to Samco Global Arms website and scroll down to the bottom of the "Rifle" section.

They still have the truly unissued (not reblued) 98/29's for $ 650.00. Non matching bayonet is another $ 30.00 or so.

When I bought mine (5-6 years back??) they had these rifles "as new" with the matching s/n bayonet, test target and new sling for around $ 500.00 AIR.

And yes, all the "unissued" grade I have seen; were in the condition pictured above and/or pictured on Samco's site.

Samco claims 1930's manufacture -- I'm told they were made for the Shah of Iran's father (Mohammed Rezza Shah -- I think).

Think of it like this -- It's a heck of a lot less than a Luger of that period and in that condition!

Edward Tinker · 04-30-2007, 08:53 PM

Joe, great items, Ron thanks for posting it,

Ed

Ron Smith · 04-30-2007, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ron Wood
Ron rides a Harley? Why am I not surprised?

Yup! This one...

Russ · 05-01-2007, 01:48 PM

Very nice helmet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Russ

Ron Smith · 05-01-2007, 02:05 PM

Hey Russ,

Where ya been?? Hope all is going good for you.

Ron

pillboxesghost · 05-04-2007, 08:25 PM

All,
The Iranian or Persian calendar (Jalaali calendar) was adopted on 31 March, 1925. That is, 31 March 1925 corresponds to the first day of the Iranian year 1304. My Iranian Mauser test target (bearing rifle S/N in Farsi) is printed (on the Czech half) "Tuska vz. 1309". Don't read Czech, but I strongly suspect this roughly translates to "Rifle Model 1309".

Wikipedia is wrong; these are not 98k's (short rifles). The so called Iranian Model 98/29 infantry long rifles (29" barrels) with their corresponding long bayonets would have been adopted/contracted for in the Persian year 1309. The first day of the Persian year 1309 is 21 March, 1930 (not quite 1929, but still close enough for 98/29 designation).

Obviously, these rifles were made by CZ (Brno) in the 1930's. In fact, my test target is ink stamped (faint, but legible) 8 IX 1934. Which I interpret as the Gregorian date 8 September, 1934.

I'm certain these were made for Reza Shah Pahlavi (Reza Shah the Great)who reigned from Dec. 1925 thru Sept. 1941. He is the father of the man we remember as the " Shah of Iran " (Mohammad Reza Pahlavi).

These weapons would have been companion pieces to the Persian Lugers. They are also "dirt cheap" compared to those Lugers.

Hope this helps clear up some of the of the confusion about when these arms were made.

Jon

lugerholsterrepair · 05-04-2007, 08:46 PM

Ron, Sweet ride! Must feel good to have a thousand pounds of hot steel between your legs!
Next time you ride that hog out there don't forget those Radom's! Jerry Burney

thegundude · 05-04-2007, 09:18 PM

Ron, your bike looks familiar to me...

Ron Smith · 05-04-2007, 10:05 PM

Jerry,

There's nothing like it on a warm Spring day. The sun on your face, smell of the cow crap, bugs in your teeth .... It don't get any better.

Steve,

Road King Classic!!! Hey, what it is~~~ The most beautiful piece of machinery on the road.

What year?? Mine's an '01.

Edward Tinker · 05-04-2007, 10:22 PM

an 06 , oh, sorry, mines a "cage"

lugerholsterrepair · 05-05-2007, 11:03 AM

Geeze Ed, I never got to see this one! Nice Mustang..Everyone has a sweet ride and I'm ridin my mortgage...At least I'm freezin my kiester off in the mountains! Jerry Burney

thegundude · 05-05-2007, 11:19 AM

Ron, it's a 2000. It's also had some minor mods since that pic was taken. Beach bars with chrome signal housing and the wires run through the bars. Stuff like that. I even made some engine bolt covers with nickel plated .44 mag casings.

I really should update my photos of it.

Ron Smith · 05-05-2007, 09:43 PM

Steve,

The first thing I did with it was to get some 10" Chubby bars and have the wiring run inside. I hated the 'switchboard' look. I also got the Power Commander 4 installed. Really made a difference. I can take my buddies Dyna-Lowrider in a hole shot, but at about the time I hit 3rd he's with me again. Too much weight to pull in higher gears.

Ed,

That's a nice bridge. Too bad somebody parked in the middle of it.

That is a nice looking Mustang.

04-29-2007, 05:23 PM	#1
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	~Joe's Items~ I just spent a very pleasant couple of hours with my friend Joe Evans who's forum name is "hopscotch". I posted photos of Joe's one and only Luger here not long ago. A 1938 Krieghoff that his uncle captured and passed along to him. He also has a couple of nice Radoms that I failed to photograph. Here are a couple of items that were also brought back by his uncle. I will let him tell you about them. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

04-29-2007, 05:27 PM	#2
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	He also has a Persian Mauser which he purchased from a well known local Mauser collector and friend, who succumbed to cancer at an early age. This is probably one of the most pristine Mausers I have ever seen, short of a couple of handling dings. With a matching issue bayonet. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

04-29-2007, 05:46 PM	#3
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,863 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	Ron, Very cool! Wish you had taken photo's of the Radom's! Beautiful stuff. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

04-29-2007, 05:56 PM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Jerry, I'll try to get back out to his "Country Estate"(running joke), soon and get some photos of the Radoms. I tried to get a close up of the maker's marks on the glove snap for you to look at, but it didn't come out legible enough to post. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

04-29-2007, 07:44 PM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	Ron rides a Harley? Why am I not surprised?! I have a small collection of Pickelhauben and I really am impressed (read extreme lust!) with the Guard Officer helmet. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

04-29-2007, 07:32 PM	#5
hopscotch User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	The gloves are WW11 German motor cycle that my got uncle got after the cycle was dstroyed, he was on a tank destroyer. Ron and I haven't seen any others like these. The Picklehauben is a Prussian Guard Officer's. This is a mid war and the helmet is Vulcan Fibre which is an early form of plastic. The parade tricter is either buffalo or yak hair dyed white which is the Prussian color. The helmet liner is in perfect condition and is silk. Of the cockades, the Imperial is black, white, red. the prussian is black, white. For Ron's info. The K-98 came from a close friend's estate who had 300+ K-98's plus a lot of other stuff which Ron and I would of liked to have had. It is an "unfired" Persian with the matching bayonet. At one time, some of them, he had more than one "unfired", had the factory test fire targets. Don't know what happened to the targets. The inscription on the stock says "Infantry" and the serial number is 08870T. Made in Brno in 1309, which is either 1945 or 1935. Not sure of the year transciption. One Radom hasn't been touched, but one has been reblued with some white repro grips. Actually I kind of like the looks of it. They are both 3 lever. When Ron gets back out here on his Harley, he can take more pics. Joe Evans

04-29-2007, 10:16 PM	#7
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	A Garde officer wearing the helmet. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

04-30-2007, 06:49 PM	#8
pillboxesghost User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Coastal NC Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	98/20 Persian Mauser Long Rifles If you guys really want a Brno made Persian long rifle in the condition shown; go to Samco Global Arms website and scroll down to the bottom of the "Rifle" section. They still have the truly unissued (not reblued) 98/29's for $ 650.00. Non matching bayonet is another $ 30.00 or so. When I bought mine (5-6 years back??) they had these rifles "as new" with the matching s/n bayonet, test target and new sling for around $ 500.00 AIR. And yes, all the "unissued" grade I have seen; were in the condition pictured above and/or pictured on Samco's site. Samco claims 1930's manufacture -- I'm told they were made for the Shah of Iran's father (Mohammed Rezza Shah -- I think). Think of it like this -- It's a heck of a lot less than a Luger of that period and in that condition! __________________ Jon Lewis

04-30-2007, 08:53 PM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Joe, great items, Ron thanks for posting it, Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-01-2007, 01:48 PM	#11
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	Very nice helmet!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Russ __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!

05-01-2007, 02:05 PM	#12
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hey Russ, Where ya been?? Hope all is going good for you. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

05-04-2007, 08:25 PM	#13
pillboxesghost User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Coastal NC Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Manufacture Date of Iranian Mausers All, The Iranian or Persian calendar (Jalaali calendar) was adopted on 31 March, 1925. That is, 31 March 1925 corresponds to the first day of the Iranian year 1304. My Iranian Mauser test target (bearing rifle S/N in Farsi) is printed (on the Czech half) "Tuska vz. 1309". Don't read Czech, but I strongly suspect this roughly translates to "Rifle Model 1309". Wikipedia is wrong; these are not 98k's (short rifles). The so called Iranian Model 98/29 infantry long rifles (29" barrels) with their corresponding long bayonets would have been adopted/contracted for in the Persian year 1309. The first day of the Persian year 1309 is 21 March, 1930 (not quite 1929, but still close enough for 98/29 designation). Obviously, these rifles were made by CZ (Brno) in the 1930's. In fact, my test target is ink stamped (faint, but legible) 8 IX 1934. Which I interpret as the Gregorian date 8 September, 1934. I'm certain these were made for Reza Shah Pahlavi (Reza Shah the Great)who reigned from Dec. 1925 thru Sept. 1941. He is the father of the man we remember as the " Shah of Iran " (Mohammad Reza Pahlavi). These weapons would have been companion pieces to the Persian Lugers. They are also "dirt cheap" compared to those Lugers. Hope this helps clear up some of the of the confusion about when these arms were made. Jon __________________ Jon Lewis

05-04-2007, 08:46 PM	#14
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,863 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	Ron, Sweet ride! Must feel good to have a thousand pounds of hot steel between your legs! Next time you ride that hog out there don't forget those Radom's! Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

05-04-2007, 09:18 PM	#15
thegundude User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NC Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 3 Posts	Ron, your bike looks familiar to me... __________________ Keep your knees in the breeze and your iron in the air. ~Steve

05-04-2007, 10:05 PM	#16
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Jerry, There's nothing like it on a warm Spring day. The sun on your face, smell of the cow crap, bugs in your teeth .... It don't get any better. Steve, Road King Classic!!! Hey, what it is~~~ The most beautiful piece of machinery on the road. What year?? Mine's an '01. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

05-04-2007, 10:22 PM	#17
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	an 06 , oh, sorry, mines a "cage" Attached Images

05-05-2007, 11:03 AM	#18
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,863 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	Geeze Ed, I never got to see this one! Nice Mustang..Everyone has a sweet ride and I'm ridin my mortgage...At least I'm freezin my kiester off in the mountains! Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

05-05-2007, 11:19 AM	#19
thegundude User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NC Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 3 Posts	Ron, it's a 2000. It's also had some minor mods since that pic was taken. Beach bars with chrome signal housing and the wires run through the bars. Stuff like that. I even made some engine bolt covers with nickel plated .44 mag casings. I really should update my photos of it. __________________ Keep your knees in the breeze and your iron in the air. ~Steve

05-05-2007, 09:43 PM	#20
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Steve, The first thing I did with it was to get some 10" Chubby bars and have the wiring run inside. I hated the 'switchboard' look. I also got the Power Commander 4 installed. Really made a difference. I can take my buddies Dyna-Lowrider in a hole shot, but at about the time I hit 3rd he's with me again. Too much weight to pull in higher gears. Ed, That's a nice bridge. Too bad somebody parked in the middle of it. That is a nice looking Mustang. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...