hold open failure

Augsburger · 12-15-2006, 07:08 PM

What would cause the hold open to not function. The gun doesn't jam, feeds perfectly, no broken parts, gun clean and well lubed...just won't hold the toggle back after last shot. Any ideas??? Thanks...G

Vlim · 12-16-2006, 02:53 AM

Hi,

-Holdopen spring is getting weak.
-Bottom of the toggle lacks support for the holdopen.
-Holdopen support bit that interacts with the toggle is worn.
-Weak magazine spring.
-Ammo doesn't allow the toggle to open far enough to engage the toggle.

Hugh · 12-16-2006, 07:46 PM

In addition to above:

Weak recoil spring allows the action to function so fast that the holdopen doesn't have time to engage.

Augsburger · 12-16-2006, 08:22 PM

thanks guys...that gives me enough to start with

John Sabato · 12-18-2006, 12:41 PM

There also may be some swelling or dirt on the inside of the grip that doesn't allow free movement of the magazine follower button, and hence the holdopen.

Augsburger · 12-18-2006, 11:15 PM

Thanks John....I did replace the grips....I think I'll start with (your) easiest fix first...G

12-15-2006, 07:08 PM	#1
Augsburger User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tejas Posts: 160 Thanks: 17 Thanked 14 Times in 5 Posts	hold open failure What would cause the hold open to not function. The gun doesn't jam, feeds perfectly, no broken parts, gun clean and well lubed...just won't hold the toggle back after last shot. Any ideas??? Thanks...G __________________ Wilder Eber

12-16-2006, 07:46 PM	#3
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 166 Times in 65 Posts	In addition to above: Weak recoil spring allows the action to function so fast that the holdopen doesn't have time to engage. __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

12-16-2006, 08:22 PM	#4
Augsburger User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tejas Posts: 160 Thanks: 17 Thanked 14 Times in 5 Posts	thanks guys...that gives me enough to start with __________________ Wilder Eber

12-18-2006, 12:41 PM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	There also may be some swelling or dirt on the inside of the grip that doesn't allow free movement of the magazine follower button, and hence the holdopen. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

12-18-2006, 11:15 PM	#6
Augsburger User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tejas Posts: 160 Thanks: 17 Thanked 14 Times in 5 Posts	Thanks John....I did replace the grips....I think I'll start with (your) easiest fix first...G __________________ Wilder Eber

12-16-2006, 02:53 AM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Hi, -Holdopen spring is getting weak. -Bottom of the toggle lacks support for the holdopen. -Holdopen support bit that interacts with the toggle is worn. -Weak magazine spring. -Ammo doesn't allow the toggle to open far enough to engage the toggle.