White proof mark highlighter

Jaime Allan · 08-12-2001, 12:04 PM

I would like to know what the white material used to highlight luger proof marks sometimes seen in text book photo's. Where would one obtain this substance. Thanks Jaime

stymie · 08-12-2001, 02:18 PM

Br#517100001 & it works very well. Others have used Testor's plastic model paint & carefully wipe the excess w/ a mild solvent & apply a clear sealer.

Marvin · 08-12-2001, 02:38 PM

Jaime,

Another item is the ordinary white "China Marker" which is much cheaper than the the Laquer Stik. What I like about the China Marker is that it can be removed easier than the paints some folks use. With the China Marker, I just oil the area, let the carrier dissepate, rub the stamps until they are filled in, and then wipe the area carefully so that it is not wiped out of the stamp. When you want to remove it, just wipe the area with an oily cloth.

If you want something more permanant, use the Laquer Stik.

Marvin

08-12-2001, 04:07 PM

Various paints work well, but be careful of the ones which are water based, such as the acrylic types. These can trap water underneath and cause rust. "White Out" from the stationery store is OK, as is any of the waxy sticks used for furniture scratch touch-up.

BILL · 08-12-2001, 04:16 PM

The paint stick markers are permanent (meaning, hard to remove once they have dried). They all discolor over time and to really remove most of them you will be digging around with a needle or pin into the stamps. Wax markers are temporary, good for taking pictures to document a stamp and come off easily when you are ready to put your pistols away. I would steer clear of the 'paint' type on any really nice pistols. (I have spent hours trying to remove some of that stuff, especially difficult in proof marks).

John D. · 08-12-2001, 05:04 PM

You can also try a grease stick sold at your auto parts store.. For the life of me - I never found a China Marker in White (I found Black, Red, Green, etc, though:-) - but probably the same thing is a white "grease based" marker sold at your local auto store for marking tires.

Also, when you apply it - rub it "gently" with a piece of paper from a high-gloss magazine - it will leave the white markings in the depressions of the proof and remove it from the non-marked areas.

For removing Laquer Stick - cut a "Splinter" from a piece of hardwood or get a toothpick (not as good as a splinter - but it works.). Apply some WD-40 to a rag - and then wipe the area that the paint was applied - and keep that area wet for about 2-3 minutes with the WD-40. Next, take the splinter/toothpick and remove the laquer (i.e. "dig it out"). As Bill said later in this thread - digging out someone else's "paint job" with a stick is a horrendous task...

HTH....

Kyrie · 08-12-2001, 05:33 PM

Hi Folks,

I remove the lacquer from Lacquer Stik with Hoppes #9 and a toothbrush. Works well for me, and the lacquer comes off easily.

Just my experience, offered entirely FWIW.

Best regards,

Kyrie

John D. · 08-12-2001, 05:50 PM

Well - dammit - I never thought of Hoppe's #9 - good suggestion!!! Thanks Kyrie..!!!

08-12-2001, 06:50 PM

For a temporary whitening, such as for a photo, I've had good luck using a very fine non-abrasive powder such as cornstarch or even powdered sugar to fill in the marks. You can then wipe it right off (unless you want ants in your Erfurts).

HÃ?Â¥kan Spuhr · 08-13-2001, 01:10 AM

I can't really understand this highligthing of marks at all.

It looks terrible in my opinion and when speaking of original is not at all original either.

And I feel that the white paint don't fit in at all estesically.

On a customgun it wuold be possible to highlihgt a polished gun with goldinlay but a collecter gun wuold be nicest without any highligthing.

Only reasons i see for highligthing is when a mark should be photographed, that can sometimes be real difficult without highlighting.

Regards HÃ?Â¥kan

BILL · 08-13-2001, 01:23 AM

I have to agree that if you don't have to take a photo, don't gum up the proofs and stamping with anything. The fine lines of the Luger are definitely degraded with the stamping highlighted. I do it for photos but if I can get the light right I won't do it. I think people see pictures in books and decide that is how a Luger should look.

ViggoG · 08-13-2001, 02:12 AM

08-13-2001, 02:34 PM

Absolutely Correct. The only way I would put the white marker on a pistol is to enhence the marks for photographic purposes. Then a bit of gun oil and a toothbrush will remove it.

08-12-2001, 12:04 PM	#1
Jaime Allan User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	White proof mark highlighter I would like to know what the white material used to highlight luger proof marks sometimes seen in text book photo's. Where would one obtain this substance. Thanks Jaime

08-12-2001, 02:18 PM	#2
stymie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: KC,MO USA Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Brownells has "Laquer Stik"... Br#517100001 & it works very well. Others have used Testor's plastic model paint & carefully wipe the excess w/ a mild solvent & apply a clear sealer.

08-12-2001, 02:38 PM	#3
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: White proof mark highlighter Jaime, Another item is the ordinary white "China Marker" which is much cheaper than the the Laquer Stik. What I like about the China Marker is that it can be removed easier than the paints some folks use. With the China Marker, I just oil the area, let the carrier dissepate, rub the stamps until they are filled in, and then wipe the area carefully so that it is not wiped out of the stamp. When you want to remove it, just wipe the area with an oily cloth. If you want something more permanant, use the Laquer Stik. Marvin

08-12-2001, 04:07 PM	#4
Aaron Steinberg Guest Posts: n/a	Be Careful of Paint Various paints work well, but be careful of the ones which are water based, such as the acrylic types. These can trap water underneath and cause rust. "White Out" from the stationery store is OK, as is any of the waxy sticks used for furniture scratch touch-up.

08-12-2001, 05:04 PM	#6
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 478 Thanked 517 Times in 129 Posts	Re: White proof mark highlighter You can also try a grease stick sold at your auto parts store.. For the life of me - I never found a China Marker in White (I found Black, Red, Green, etc, though:-) - but probably the same thing is a white "grease based" marker sold at your local auto store for marking tires. Also, when you apply it - rub it "gently" with a piece of paper from a high-gloss magazine - it will leave the white markings in the depressions of the proof and remove it from the non-marked areas. For removing Laquer Stick - cut a "Splinter" from a piece of hardwood or get a toothpick (not as good as a splinter - but it works.). Apply some WD-40 to a rag - and then wipe the area that the paint was applied - and keep that area wet for about 2-3 minutes with the WD-40. Next, take the splinter/toothpick and remove the laquer (i.e. "dig it out"). As Bill said later in this thread - digging out someone else's "paint job" with a stick is a horrendous task... HTH....

08-12-2001, 04:16 PM	#5
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Paint sticks The paint stick markers are permanent (meaning, hard to remove once they have dried). They all discolor over time and to really remove most of them you will be digging around with a needle or pin into the stamps. Wax markers are temporary, good for taking pictures to document a stamp and come off easily when you are ready to put your pistols away. I would steer clear of the 'paint' type on any really nice pistols. (I have spent hours trying to remove some of that stuff, especially difficult in proof marks).

08-12-2001, 05:33 PM	#7
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	Re: Paint sticks Hi Folks, I remove the lacquer from Lacquer Stik with Hoppes #9 and a toothbrush. Works well for me, and the lacquer comes off easily. Just my experience, offered entirely FWIW. Best regards, Kyrie

08-12-2001, 05:50 PM	#8
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 478 Thanked 517 Times in 129 Posts	Re: Paint sticks Well - dammit - I never thought of Hoppe's #9 - good suggestion!!! Thanks Kyrie..!!!

08-12-2001, 06:50 PM	#9
Mike T. Guest Posts: n/a	Re: White proof mark highlighter For a temporary whitening, such as for a photo, I've had good luck using a very fine non-abrasive powder such as cornstarch or even powdered sugar to fill in the marks. You can then wipe it right off (unless you want ants in your Erfurts).

08-13-2001, 01:10 AM	#10
HÃ?Â¥kan Spuhr User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 282 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	another unpopular opinion from a swede I can't really understand this highligthing of marks at all. It looks terrible in my opinion and when speaking of original is not at all original either. And I feel that the white paint don't fit in at all estesically. On a customgun it wuold be possible to highlihgt a polished gun with goldinlay but a collecter gun wuold be nicest without any highligthing. Only reasons i see for highligthing is when a mark should be photographed, that can sometimes be real difficult without highlighting. Regards HÃ?Â¥kan

08-13-2001, 01:23 AM	#11
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: another unpopular opinion from a swede I have to agree that if you don't have to take a photo, don't gum up the proofs and stamping with anything. The fine lines of the Luger are definitely degraded with the stamping highlighted. I do it for photos but if I can get the light right I won't do it. I think people see pictures in books and decide that is how a Luger should look.

08-13-2001, 02:12 AM	#12
ViggoG RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: South Side Virginia Posts: 534 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Its just a matter of personal choice (EOM)

08-13-2001, 02:34 PM	#13
Zeus Guest Posts: n/a	Re: another unpopular opinion from a swede Absolutely Correct. The only way I would put the white marker on a pistol is to enhence the marks for photographic purposes. Then a bit of gun oil and a toothbrush will remove it.